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Strike ?

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Jinder
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Re: Strike ?

Post by Jinder »

Mick100 wrote:
28 Mar 2023, 18:21
I wonder if the bravado and solidarity talk will stay when we have no job
It will for me as I will still have my dignity and self respect
FilthyBloke
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moon71 wrote:
28 Mar 2023, 18:41
I think the CWU have excelled in there job. The criticisms exist duely to how advanced and far a ruthless employer has acted with clearly the best legal advisers the land has to offer.

Every twist and turn has been investigated, every nook and advantage taken. Royal Mail has finally found a way to bring in change and discard the Union. Truly in hindsight this has all been about union busting.

And it's worked. No wonder in the select committee, Mr Thompson refused to say who the advisers are. They are brutal.
Having a super legal team will help. The union tripping up over their own shoelaces helped RM further.
It was clear, even mentioned in this forum, that ST is only the hatchet man. Breaking everything up. Yet the CWU concentrated only on him. The parliamentary circus event was hailed as a victory but it was a hollow one.

ST or not, the powers that be will demand the same thing from the next CEO.

In fairness to the union they were always on a hiding for nothing. But their dads army approach has angered a lot of its own members now and RM haven’t budged.
timbo1234
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Re: Strike ?

Post by timbo1234 »

Jinder wrote:
28 Mar 2023, 18:45
Mick100 wrote:
28 Mar 2023, 18:21
I wonder if the bravado and solidarity talk will stay when we have no job
It will for me as I will still have my dignity and self respect
Well said. If we cave in now RM will have free rein to change whatever they want. The CWU have tried to negotiate in good faith with an employer who has the morals of a sewer rat. I think I'm being unfair to the sewer rat!
Simondavid
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Post by Simondavid »

Some right namby fairies on here
worktotime
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Post by worktotime »

so have we served notice yet ? :thumbup , or are they in more talks :arrrghhh .
sixfoottwo
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Re: Strike ?

Post by sixfoottwo »

worktotime wrote:
29 Mar 2023, 16:20
so have we served notice yet ? :thumbup , or are they in more talks :arrrghhh .
Talking, waiting for the hobnobs to run out then it's the custard creams this could take a while.
toonshola
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Post by toonshola »

Well we were told last week that if progress wasn’t forthcoming by Tuesday(yesterday) then notice would be served. Yet another Union deadline not carried through. The CWU are absolutely all over the place and have no idea what to do next. Like a deer in the headlights, a deer that will scream SOLIDARITY while being flattened by a RM artic. At least Dave will get his mega pension when this is all done. Take some comfort in that comrades.
FilthyBloke
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Post by FilthyBloke »

toonshola wrote:
29 Mar 2023, 16:47
Well we were told last week that if progress wasn’t forthcoming by Tuesday(yesterday) then notice would be served. Yet another Union deadline not carried through. The CWU are absolutely all over the place and have no idea what to do next. Like a deer in the headlights, a deer that will scream SOLIDARITY while being flattened by a RM artic. At least Dave will get his mega pension when this is all done. Take some comfort in that comrades.
They probably never expected Royal Mail to be so ruthless. RM don’t want to negotiate and the union are powerless to stop it.
They can pretend it’s members going on strike is making a difference but the company will be moulded into new model. With or without the union.
smok3y666
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Post by smok3y666 »

Are those last few updates from Dave on Twitter todays updates? So there's no announcement on strike days? Just more negotiations?
Burghboy
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Post by Burghboy »

It looks very much like the updates today are messages to the board at todays ‘board meeting’ we will likely hear from the PEC about action after they gauge how the company plan to act/treat us in the coming day’s negotiations.
Kenfandango
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Post by Kenfandango »

The problem (I assume) is that the narrative RM are pushing is "union resistant to change, losing money, lose more money when strikes, administration." If we go on strike it kind of gives RM carte blanche to torch the company down whilst shouting "see?! We warned you this would happen and it's all your fault!"
Wullie10
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Post by Wullie10 »

As a soaking wet pizza leaflet disintegrated as I pushed it through a letter box I thought does anyone really care about strikes ? Maybe a day off from this misery make them worthwhile. Surely a more respected worthwhile job would be to deliver a actual pizza ? Could be even more pay ? Old age getting to me 😆
sindba
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Re: Strike ?

Post by sindba »

Wullie10 wrote:
29 Mar 2023, 18:35
As a soaking wet pizza leaflet disintegrated as I pushed it through a letter box I thought does anyone really care about strikes ? Maybe a day off from this misery make them worthwhile. Surely a more respected worthwhile job would be to deliver a actual pizza ? Could be even more pay ? Old age getting to me 😆
Thin crust, or you'd never get it through the letterbox.
Nickvilla20
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Post by Nickvilla20 »

🚨 UPDATE: Talks with Royal Mail will resume tomorrow. We will keep you fully updated with any major developments. Thank you for your continued support.
norris9
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Re: Strike ?

Post by norris9 »

Nickvilla20 wrote:
29 Mar 2023, 18:45
🚨 UPDATE: Talks with Royal Mail will resume tomorrow. We will keep you fully updated with any major developments. Thank you for your continued support.
When is this deadline for an agreement?

the things they still haven't resolved yet look like they would take another 6 months to resolve based on the lack of progress throughout the talks.