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Pre strike briefing -cwu

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HTPostman
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Re: Pre strike briefing -cwu

Post by HTPostman »

postieblueshirt wrote:
29 Nov 2022, 18:12
oh i forgot WE ARE A PARCEL COMPANY NOW....
Which is why I skipped with delight past the house of a Royal Mail higher up again today on my round, yes I had 6 letters for him but none are tracked and we are a parcel business so back in the frame they went. I’m sure he’ll understand.

He might get them Friday. If he’s lucky.
The day is gonna come when we’re all gonna have to testify.

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SMS1969
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Re: Pre strike briefing -cwu

Post by SMS1969 »

qwerty2 wrote:
29 Nov 2022, 18:01
pieoftheday wrote:
29 Nov 2022, 17:48
Acca Dacca wrote:
29 Nov 2022, 16:27
Itd be hard for them to say you arent capable to do the job if you dont drive when you have been doing the job for years whilst not driving.

They would need to get rid of van sharing which means doubling the number of vans, doubling the size of area to keep the vans and double the usage of fuel
Re your last comment, we have around 70 paired jobs so 70 Van's,for delivery, more for some large parcels and collections in the afternoon, I cant see them getting another 70 Van's unless of course we'll have to buy our own van? I'm a none driver btw
Surely they can’t get rid of thousands of non drivers
1 they don’t have enough people to cover everything
2 it’s probably illegal - just because you don’t drive not a good reason = employment laws??
3 age discrimination???
Would they go down the path of alternating duties each day- take one side out and tracked only on other duty, then flip them the day after. That way they’d only need one person?
Subman
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Re: Pre strike briefing -cwu

Post by Subman »

It is a good idea to raise the pressure on the government and members of parliament. IA alone
will not be enough. Hundreds of thousands of postal staff and their families contacting public representatives to raise concerns is a good idea, probably should have been doing this a bit earlier.

I have been in this job for a long time and I have friends and colleagues in different offices and we agree that we have never witnessed such harsh and abrasive management. It is clear that all management have been given a free hand to act as badly as they see fit.

SIMON :There is a common saying, 'that there is no I in team', but of course Simon there is always an exception, that's when you are the only one in a team.
Acca Dacca
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Re: Pre strike briefing -cwu

Post by Acca Dacca »

SMS1969 wrote:
29 Nov 2022, 18:32
qwerty2 wrote:
29 Nov 2022, 18:01
pieoftheday wrote:
29 Nov 2022, 17:48
Acca Dacca wrote:
29 Nov 2022, 16:27
Itd be hard for them to say you arent capable to do the job if you dont drive when you have been doing the job for years whilst not driving.

They would need to get rid of van sharing which means doubling the number of vans, doubling the size of area to keep the vans and double the usage of fuel
Re your last comment, we have around 70 paired jobs so 70 Van's,for delivery, more for some large parcels and collections in the afternoon, I cant see them getting another 70 Van's unless of course we'll have to buy our own van? I'm a none driver btw
Surely they can’t get rid of thousands of non drivers
1 they don’t have enough people to cover everything
2 it’s probably illegal - just because you don’t drive not a good reason = employment laws??
3 age discrimination???
Would they go down the path of alternating duties each day- take one side out and tracked only on other duty, then flip them the day after. That way they’d only need one person?
They couldn’t officially say that’s what they are doing though as it’s against the USO
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
SMS1969
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Re: Pre strike briefing -cwu

Post by SMS1969 »

Acca Dacca wrote:
29 Nov 2022, 18:43
SMS1969 wrote:
29 Nov 2022, 18:32
qwerty2 wrote:
29 Nov 2022, 18:01
pieoftheday wrote:
29 Nov 2022, 17:48
Acca Dacca wrote:
29 Nov 2022, 16:27
Itd be hard for them to say you arent capable to do the job if you dont drive when you have been doing the job for years whilst not driving.

They would need to get rid of van sharing which means doubling the number of vans, doubling the size of area to keep the vans and double the usage of fuel
Re your last comment, we have around 70 paired jobs so 70 Van's,for delivery, more for some large parcels and collections in the afternoon, I cant see them getting another 70 Van's unless of course we'll have to buy our own van? I'm a none driver btw
Surely they can’t get rid of thousands of non drivers
1 they don’t have enough people to cover everything
2 it’s probably illegal - just because you don’t drive not a good reason = employment laws??
3 age discrimination???
Would they go down the path of alternating duties each day- take one side out and tracked only on other duty, then flip them the day after. That way they’d only need one person?
They couldn’t officially say that’s what they are doing though as it’s against the USO
Yes I realise they can’t officially do it but….
crimson king
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Re: Pre strike briefing -cwu

Post by crimson king »

Y'all do remember Simon once musing that our vans are in the yard, lying idle, for roughly half a day?

He wouldn't have to double the number of vans if he did away with non-drivers and ,consequently, van share.

One postie works, say, 8_3, then another uses the same van from 3_10.

Who knows what wonderfully innovative duty times and patterns he could use to make this s**t work?
Sooner or later, a beat dog bites.
Sbutts8182
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Re: Pre strike briefing -cwu

Post by Sbutts8182 »

SMS1969 wrote:
29 Nov 2022, 18:48
Acca Dacca wrote:
29 Nov 2022, 18:43
SMS1969 wrote:
29 Nov 2022, 18:32
qwerty2 wrote:
29 Nov 2022, 18:01
pieoftheday wrote:
29 Nov 2022, 17:48
Acca Dacca wrote:
29 Nov 2022, 16:27
Itd be hard for them to say you arent capable to do the job if you dont drive when you have been doing the job for years whilst not driving.

They would need to get rid of van sharing which means doubling the number of vans, doubling the size of area to keep the vans and double the usage of fuel
Re your last comment, we have around 70 paired jobs so 70 Van's,for delivery, more for some large parcels and collections in the afternoon, I cant see them getting another 70 Van's unless of course we'll have to buy our own van? I'm a none driver btw
Surely they can’t get rid of thousands of non drivers
1 they don’t have enough people to cover everything
2 it’s probably illegal - just because you don’t drive not a good reason = employment laws??
3 age discrimination???
Would they go down the path of alternating duties each day- take one side out and tracked only on other duty, then flip them the day after. That way they’d only need one person?
They couldn’t officially say that’s what they are doing though as it’s against the USO
Yes I realise they can’t officially do it but….
Some offices have been doing that pre covid, most offices were doing that during covid and continued that practice after covid.
Rommagic
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Re: Pre strike briefing -cwu

Post by Rommagic »

I can not see RM backing down.