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VESA gets the OK to increase holding

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cobrakai
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Re: VESA gets the OK to increase holding

Post by cobrakai »

The question people should be asking is did the union know about this before calling off the strikes…

After all it was them that asked for a inquiry in the first place
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Re: VESA gets the OK to increase holding

Post by Acca Dacca »

cobrakai wrote:
31 Oct 2022, 13:38
The question people should be asking is did the union know about this before calling off the strikes…

After all it was them that asked for a inquiry in the first place
This wouldnt have changed anything. Still wouldnt have been able to go ahead with rolling strikes.
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Re: VESA gets the OK to increase holding

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cobrakai wrote:
31 Oct 2022, 13:38


After all it was them that asked for a inquiry in the first place
The union's request for an inquiry was irrelevant.
The inquiry was triggered by VESA stating they wanted to increase their shareholding to over 25%.
30% triggers a takeover bid.

I am not sure if any of the Business Secretaries acknowledged Dave's letter or if there was any input from the CWU into the decision.
I could be wrong but it looks like the CWU were just ignored.
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Re: VESA gets the OK to increase holding

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It stinks . Isn’t schapps one of Thompsons mates?
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Re: VESA gets the OK to increase holding

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I try not to get too stressed about "The Big Picture", although I realise IF it happens it's obviously going to affect us all.

Bear in mind the Serenity Prayer. You know the one that starts: "God give me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change ....." :pray

Whatever happens it's not like selling off a small family business, he's going to have over 100,000 pissed off Posties to deal with! :cuppa
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Re: VESA gets the OK to increase holding

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Shame we haven't still got all our shares, although obviously they'd be worth a lot less than when I sold mine at £5.60, anyway, when we were all allocated them, posties collectively held 10% of the business didn't they? + Those who bought their own.Thats a lot of voting power and it would have to be a hostile take over if any.
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Re: VESA gets the OK to increase holding

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rambo1 wrote:
31 Oct 2022, 14:52
Shame we haven't still got all our shares, although obviously they'd be worth a lot less than when I sold mine at £5.60, anyway, when we were all allocated them, posties collectively held 49% of the business didn't they? + Those who bought their own.Thats a lot of voting power and it would have to be a hostile take over if any.
10% I believe, not 49

EDIT - just seen youve changed it to 10
Last edited by Acca Dacca on 31 Oct 2022, 15:07, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: VESA gets the OK to increase holding

Post by Redvannon »

rambo1 wrote:
31 Oct 2022, 08:29
Skuse wrote:
31 Oct 2022, 08:13
Big fat brown envelope for somebody
with a foreign post mark on it. I would say where from but struggling to spell czech......no thats not right...
A cheque from a Czech?
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Re: VESA gets the OK to increase holding

Post by eggraidonmojo »

rambo1 wrote:
31 Oct 2022, 14:52
Shame we haven't still got all our shares, although obviously they'd be worth a lot less than when I sold mine at £5.60, anyway, when we were all allocated them, posties collectively held 49% of the business didn't they? + Those who bought their own.Thats a lot of voting power and it would have to be a hostile take over if any.
When we were privatised wasn't there some talk about creating an employee's trust for our shares?

we could have still got dividends, but our collective shareholding might have limited the business's ability to attack its own workforce.
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Re: VESA gets the OK to increase holding

Post by Binsey »

eggraidonmojo wrote:
31 Oct 2022, 15:52
rambo1 wrote:
31 Oct 2022, 14:52
Shame we haven't still got all our shares, although obviously they'd be worth a lot less than when I sold mine at £5.60, anyway, when we were all allocated them, posties collectively held 49% of the business didn't they? + Those who bought their own.Thats a lot of voting power and it would have to be a hostile take over if any.
When we were privatised wasn't there some talk about creating an employee's trust for our shares?


we could have still got dividends, but our collective shareholding might have limited the business's ability to attack its own workforce.
Yes there was. It was mentioned on here a lot way back at privatisation.
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Re: VESA gets the OK to increase holding

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scoobydo79 wrote:
31 Oct 2022, 14:28
It stinks . Isn’t schapps one of Thompsons mates?
No way has Thompson got any mates. Connections, maybe, mates, no way!
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Re: VESA gets the OK to increase holding

Post by clashcityrocker »

scoobydo79 wrote:
31 Oct 2022, 14:28
It stinks . Isn’t schapps one of Thompsons mates?
Why does it stink?
A businessman buying shares in a company with a view to taking that company over.
It has been going on for a few years.
Which bit stinks?
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Re: VESA gets the OK to increase holding

Post by eggraidonmojo »

Binsey wrote:
31 Oct 2022, 16:28
eggraidonmojo wrote:
31 Oct 2022, 15:52
rambo1 wrote:
31 Oct 2022, 14:52
Shame we haven't still got all our shares, although obviously they'd be worth a lot less than when I sold mine at £5.60, anyway, when we were all allocated them, posties collectively held 49% of the business didn't they? + Those who bought their own.Thats a lot of voting power and it would have to be a hostile take over if any.
When we were privatised wasn't there some talk about creating an employee's trust for our shares?


we could have still got dividends, but our collective shareholding might have limited the business's ability to attack its own workforce.
Yes there was. It was mentioned on here a lot way back at privatisation.
Oh well, maybe next time...
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Re: VESA gets the OK to increase holding

Post by Murdoch »

eggraidonmojo wrote:
31 Oct 2022, 15:52
When we were privatised wasn't there some talk about creating an employee's trust for our shares?

we could have still got dividends, but our collective shareholding might have limited the business's ability to attack its own workforce.
The Government also kept a 30% stake for a while but sold it off, like pretty much everything else.

Many countries do still have a retaining stake in their postal service post privatisation.

Of course we don't for obvious reasons, cause people keep voting 'em in. Bear in mind, one of the reasons for privatising the postal service in the first place, was so the private sector could "manage the decline", and get it off the Government's books.
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Re: VESA gets the OK to increase holding

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Redvannon wrote:
31 Oct 2022, 15:02
rambo1 wrote:
31 Oct 2022, 08:29
Skuse wrote:
31 Oct 2022, 08:13
Big fat brown envelope for somebody
with a foreign post mark on it. I would say where from but struggling to spell czech......no thats not right...
A cheque from a Czech?
Darn why didn't I think of that lol.