Spin to win

[chickenwittle]

Full week out in December either 2nd or 3rd week
They will panic or we’re finished

Pretty sure Thompson is happy with the prospect of the business grinding to a halt over the next month.

He'll be thinking that public opinion will sway towards the business and against the posties. He'll then announce further cuts and redundancies due to the state of the finances.

The last thing he wants is this firm to return to 'normal'. He's forcing through change regardless of the collateral damage

Do you really think Thompson cares about public opinion ?

I think he's power crazy. He loves the notoriety. He loves the idea of the public being rattled by the consequences of his 'leadership' of this firm, and he will love nothing more than the CWU and it's members being blamed by the public for this sh*t we are in.

The public don’t give a crap , they barely know we are on strike, I’ve had customers turn up on strike days when I’m on the picket line with their 739 cards to pick parcels up ,totally oblivious to strikes.

[POSTPERSON50]

Full week out in December either 2nd or 3rd week
They will panic or we’re finished

Pretty sure Thompson is happy with the prospect of the business grinding to a halt over the next month.

He'll be thinking that public opinion will sway towards the business and against the posties. He'll then announce further cuts and redundancies due to the state of the finances.

The last thing he wants is this firm to return to 'normal'. He's forcing through change regardless of the collateral damage

Do you really think Thompson cares about public opinion ?

I think he's power crazy. He loves the notoriety. He loves the idea of the public being rattled by the consequences of his 'leadership' of this firm, and he will love nothing more than the CWU and it's members being blamed by the public for this sh*t we are in.

The public don’t give a crap , they barely know we are on strike, I’ve had customers turn up on strike days when I’m on the picket line with their 739 cards to pick parcels up ,totally oblivious to strikes.

Mate, they'll give a crap and will know we're on strike when they get no Christmas parcels for weeks on end in December. This dispute hasn't even warmed up yet.

There will be no service at all in 6 weeks' time.

[heraldmoth]

Unless the union get some really good concessions on the final deal it’s all been a bit pointless. I know it’s been more about terms and conditions than the pay but most of us have already lost hundreds of pounds so the money needs to compensate too.

Each strike day literally costs about 48 quid as opposed the normal take home pay, granted if your unlucky and none of the strike days have landed on annual leave or rest days then we probably are talking hundreds. My guess on average we’ve lost any 200 quid so far it’s not nothing but it’s also not a huge ask at this point.

[the beautiful bd south]

Unless the union get some really good concessions on the final deal it’s all been a bit pointless. I know it’s been more about terms and conditions than the pay but most of us have already lost hundreds of pounds so the money needs to compensate too.

Each strike day literally costs about 48 quid as opposed the normal take home pay, granted if your unlucky and none of the strike days have landed on annual leave or rest days then we probably are talking hundreds. My guess on average we’ve lost any 200 quid so far it’s not nothing but it’s also not a huge ask at this point.

Not when you take into account lost allowances etc for those who recieve them.
I think you're estimated average is a bit low.
The fact that weekend staff have not been included in this series of strikes is a bit annoying.

[freespeech]

I don't think saving face will satisfy many of us, the war cry was for a no strings payrise, we have lost that one, If we accept any changes we have lost and we will accept change.

I have been around long enough to know there are never any winners. It is always compromise.

I have been around long enough to know there are never any winners. It is always compromise........bang on the money with that. Even the best result isn't likely to match an inflation equalling pay rise in my view.

[Frankie15]

Middle ground!! That's gonna be a FACT whether we like it or not. But we'll still have to fight for it

[aiden01]

Unless the union get some really good concessions on the final deal it’s all been a bit pointless. I know it’s been more about terms and conditions than the pay but most of us have already lost hundreds of pounds so the money needs to compensate too.

Each strike day literally costs about 48 quid as opposed the normal take home pay, granted if your unlucky and none of the strike days have landed on annual leave or rest days then we probably are talking hundreds. My guess on average we’ve lost any 200 quid so far it’s not nothing but it’s also not a huge ask at this point.

Don't know were you get your maths mate but personally im down £119 each strike day. I do 9hr plus shift

[walthmstowman]

Full week out in December either 2nd or 3rd week
They will panic or we’re finished

Call a full week strike an people will go back in their thousands guaranteed. lots are wavering now.

They can go back but if we lose this dispute they know what's coming .

[Skuse]

Maybe a full week of strike action or the threat of one is the answer as hard as it would be for most if not everyone the Liverpool dock workers are out on a 2 week strike they were offered 10% which is far more than we were offered I'm hoping tomorrow's strike and the upcoming rolling dates in November will achieve something because if not I believe it won't end well for us

The dock workers say it’s 8.3% in real terms and I’m not sure if there conditions are changing ?

[heraldmoth]

Maths is on my wage slip, 7.24 lost for one day but that leaves me paying less than half my usual tax amount, if I cld post a wage slip I would buy my take home is 48 quid down. 20+ years btw

[mags999]

real figure is about 70 pounds after tax

[Jack1960]

Unless the union get some really good concessions on the final deal it’s all been a bit pointless. I know it’s been more about terms and conditions than the pay but most of us have already lost hundreds of pounds so the money needs to compensate too.

Each strike day literally costs about 48 quid as opposed the normal take home pay, granted if your unlucky and none of the strike days have landed on annual leave or rest days then we probably are talking hundreds. My guess on average we’ve lost any 200 quid so far it’s not nothing but it’s also not a huge ask at this point.

Don't know were you get your maths mate but personally im down £119 each strike day. I do 9hr plus shift

48 pounds? Impossible

[heraldmoth]

Unless the union get some really good concessions on the final deal it’s all been a bit pointless. I know it’s been more about terms and conditions than the pay but most of us have already lost hundreds of pounds so the money needs to compensate too.

Take home 343 after tax and minus 7hr 24 for a flat week
Each strike day literally costs about 48 quid as opposed the normal take home pay, granted if your unlucky and none of the strike days have landed on annual leave or rest days then we probably are talking hundreds. My guess on average we’ve lost any 200 quid so far it’s not nothing but it’s also not a huge ask at this point.

Don't know were you get your maths mate but personally im down £119 each strike day. I do 9hr plus shift

48 pounds? Impossible

[heraldmoth]

Unless the union get some really good concessions on the final deal it’s all been a bit pointless. I know it’s been more about terms and conditions than the pay but most of us have already lost hundreds of pounds so the money needs to compensate too.

Take home 343 after tax and minus 7hr 24 for a flat week
Each strike day literally costs about 48 quid as opposed the normal take home pay, granted if your unlucky and none of the strike days have landed on annual leave or rest days then we probably are talking hundreds. My guess on average we’ve lost any 200 quid so far it’s not nothing but it’s also not a huge ask at this point.

Don't know were you get your maths mate but personally im down £119 each strike day. I do 9hr plus shift

48 pounds? Impossible

[heraldmoth]

Unless the union get some really good concessions on the final deal it’s all been a bit pointless. I know it’s been more about terms and conditions than the pay but most of us have already lost hundreds of pounds so the money needs to compensate too.

Take home 343 after tax and minus 7hr 24 for a flat week
Each strike day literally costs about 48 quid as opposed the normal take home pay, granted if your unlucky and none of the strike days have landed on annual leave or rest days then we probably are talking hundreds. My guess on average we’ve lost any 200 quid so far it’s not nothing but it’s also not a huge ask at this point.

Don't know were you get your maths mate but personally im down £119 each strike day. I do 9hr plus shift

48 pounds? Impossible

Take home 343 after tax and minus 7hr 24 mins for a flat week