Post Strike Workload

[ted_e_bear]

A complete mess.


All Thompson has to do is charge more for letters and small parcels and move us to a 5 day letters service instead of 6. Weekend parcel deliveries. With a 8% pay rise for staff.

Nobody else delivers letters and nobody else can do small parcels as cheap as us..... so charge the customer more!

Yeah, nobody wants to work Sundays, but we have got to find some middle ground.

+1 also from me, well said.

Some of the other issues can be ironed out simply by better management, the current lat afternoon delivery costs a fortune with the flat payment regardless of the amount of work, put a bit of thought into it eh, how about a form of hybrid with a smaller delivery plus the lats or even a 4 day duty where you do lats afterwards.

Yeah Sundays unpopular but if as suggested above we went to parcel only weekends I'm sure some might not mind Saturday/Sunday as much if it meant instead of a brutal 12 mile or so walk, obviously again it would have to be managed properly into a duty structure rather than just offered as overtime.

[Chitchat]

A complete mess.


All Thompson has to do is charge more for letters and small parcels and move us to a 5 day letters service instead of 6. Weekend parcel deliveries. With a 8% pay rise for staff.

Nobody else delivers letters and nobody else can do small parcels as cheap as us..... so charge the customer more!

Yeah, nobody wants to work Sundays, but we have got to find some middle ground.

+1 also from me, well said.

Some of the other issues can be ironed out simply by better management, the current lat afternoon delivery costs a fortune with the flat payment regardless of the amount of work, put a bit of thought into it eh, how about a form of hybrid with a smaller delivery plus the lats or even a 4 day duty where you do lats afterwards.

Yeah Sundays unpopular but if as suggested above we went to parcel only weekends I'm sure some might not mind Saturday/Sunday as much if it meant instead of a brutal 12 mile or so walk, obviously again it would have to be managed properly into a duty structure rather than just offered as overtime.

It seems like royal mail arnt interested in other ideas or negotiating, they have their plan and are trying to steam roll it through.

[noggin1969]

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[billycat]

Absolute mess at our place failed walks, failed tracked parcels all 10 of our agency workers were called into a meeting yesterday rinsing royal mail for money and not doing the work on friday, they had 56 parcels to deliver 8 hours pay for each one 19 failed our manager wants to get rid of the lot he showed me the email he sent to the sector manager last week one actual complained to our manager he had 32 to deliver for 8hrs pay while another guy only had 15 to do there again according to our great leader we are the reason royal mail are in a terrible situation.

[CRIBMAD]

Stay strong lads this i feel is the beginning of the end for that twat thompson ! Anyone heard of the petition going around to get him out ?

[Cedar_Room]

Chaos at our place. Numerous walks left in,packets everywhere. Saw the manager when I landed back yesterday at 2pm,looking into space & scratching his head.

A number of senior & usually conscientious posties have now given up the ghost. The constant hammering off Thompson & his cronies has finally pushed them over the age. They will work their hours but not a second more. All goodwill,gone!

Well done Simon

[k979aaa]

Stay strong lads this i feel is the beginning of the end for that twat thompson ! Anyone heard of the petition going around to get him out ?

Yep done so thanks

[mjd24]

Definitely witnessing a shift in attitude from many colleagues who have been pushed too far by Simon Thompsons antics, and are no longer willing to go above and beyond- and without that willingness, things soon start to unravel.

[Kenfandango]

As a newish person I had to work today (Sunday)... Walks with mech piled around, had to prep and deliver a walk with 3 days undelivered mail and non tracked. Some bright spark clearly asked for absorption to be done yesterday so bundled loops of that piled up undelivered that will have to be put back in the frame tomorrow (with the all important D2Ds)...

Meanwhile agency staff proudly and loudly saying that they're getting 8 hours pay to deliver 52 parcels, all within a 5 mile radius of the depot. One of them had 37, and had gone home when I got back for more pay than I was getting

[Racingpostie]

As a newish person I had to work today (Sunday)... Walks with mech piled around, had to prep and deliver a walk with 3 days undelivered mail and non tracked. Some bright spark clearly asked for absorption to be done yesterday so bundled loops of that piled up undelivered that will have to be put back in the frame tomorrow (with the all important D2Ds)...

Meanwhile agency staff proudly and loudly saying that they're getting 8 hours pay to deliver 52 parcels, all within a 5 mile radius of the depot. One of them had 37, and had gone home when I got back for more pay than I was getting

Same boat, do 1 in 2 on Sunday's. Regularly end up doing plenty more than agency folk and yet a constant new supply of agency keep turning up of late with very little about them getting any hours/work they want in front of RM employees Mon-Sun. I know they're trying to "break" us with petit tactics but so much money is wasted it's inconceivable we can be losing so much and yet throwing so much on agency/vans every week.

[kazardaimenu]

As a newish person I had to work today (Sunday)... Walks with mech piled around, had to prep and deliver a walk with 3 days undelivered mail and non tracked. Some bright spark clearly asked for absorption to be done yesterday so bundled loops of that piled up undelivered that will have to be put back in the frame tomorrow (with the all important D2Ds)...

Meanwhile agency staff proudly and loudly saying that they're getting 8 hours pay to deliver 52 parcels, all within a 5 mile radius of the depot. One of them had 37, and had gone home when I got back for more pay than I was getting

They shouldn’t have you doing mail on a Sunday. Tbf to the agency lot at our place they were out for an hour or so after I finished today but they are getting £5 more an hour so can’t blame them for coining it in.

[YourBoy]

I'm not an employee of RM but have used them for 15 years for my business (posting to over 100 countries) and all of my adult life for personal posting (25+ years)

If there are major delays this week then I will for sure switch over to Evri until this period of striking has come to an end and things start to come back to normal with parcel transit.

My customers don't have any patience for a strike, they will literally tell me (as a business owner) to ditch RM and use someone that's not striking, in a derogatory manner to boot.

I'm very loyal to Royal Mail and the UPU (for international shipments) so I will always go back to RM, but I feel that I may need to switch over to Everi for my UK customers, so that (as a retailer) I don't look completely inefficient against the likes of Amazon who of course have their own delivery network that does not perform strikes as they are not part of a trade union.

My sort of reasoning will sadly will explain a lack of business parcels in the coming weeks/months for RM.

RM will always be king with international parcel/letter post as they are pat of the UPU, but I do fear for their domestic presence at this stage.

I hope it all pans out for you folks at RM and I can side-step having to temporarily switch over to Evri for UK parcel delivery.

[2chorizon]

I'm not an employee of RM but have used them for 15 years for my business (posting to over 100 countries) and all of my adult life for personal posting (25+ years)

If there are major delays this week then I will for sure switch over to Evri until this period of striking has come to an end and things start to come back to normal with parcel transit.

My customers don't have any patience for a strike, they will literally tell me (as a business owner) to ditch RM and use someone that's not striking, in a derogatory manner to boot.

I'm very loyal to Royal Mail and the UPU (for international shipments) so I will always go back to RM, but I feel that I may need to switch over to Everi for my UK customers, so that (as a retailer) I don't look completely inefficient against the likes of Amazon who of course have their own delivery network that does not perform strikes as they are not part of a trade union.

My sort of reasoning will sadly will explain a lack of business parcels in the coming weeks/months for RM.

RM will always be king with international parcel/letter post as they are pat of the UPU, but I do fear for their domestic presence at this stage.

I hope it all pans out for you folks at RM and I can side-step having to temporarily switch over to Evri for UK parcel delivery.

Good luck with all that, btw your Amazon Packages will likely be re-routed back through RM anyway.

[YourBoy]

I'm not an employee of RM but have used them for 15 years for my business (posting to over 100 countries) and all of my adult life for personal posting (25+ years)

If there are major delays this week then I will for sure switch over to Evri until this period of striking has come to an end and things start to come back to normal with parcel transit.

My customers don't have any patience for a strike, they will literally tell me (as a business owner) to ditch RM and use someone that's not striking, in a derogatory manner to boot.

I'm very loyal to Royal Mail and the UPU (for international shipments) so I will always go back to RM, but I feel that I may need to switch over to Everi for my UK customers, so that (as a retailer) I don't look completely inefficient against the likes of Amazon who of course have their own delivery network that does not perform strikes as they are not part of a trade union.

My sort of reasoning will sadly will explain a lack of business parcels in the coming weeks/months for RM.

RM will always be king with international parcel/letter post as they are pat of the UPU, but I do fear for their domestic presence at this stage.

I hope it all pans out for you folks at RM and I can side-step having to temporarily switch over to Evri for UK parcel delivery.

Good luck with all that, btw your Amazon Packages will likely be re-routed back through RM anyway.

I don't sell anything on Amazon so I'm not sure if that's what you were referring to. I have my own website that I sell from without any marketplace middleman involved. Amazon would be considered a competitor of mine, hence why I said what I said originally.

I believe that when an Amazon guy shows up in an Amazon van to a persons' house, that driver is in fact working for Amazon and not for RM.

If you are talking about my personal Amazon purchases being re-routed back through RM when say I make a return, not too sure because the last time I went to the Post Office to drop off an Amazon return, there was no RM label or RM tracking number involved, it was Amazon's own labelling and Amazon internal tracking. With that said, I'm not sure if RM subsequently picked up the days' Amazon returns from that Post Office and took them to the Amazon warehouse. You guys would know better than I.

Since their contract ended in 2020, the Post Office and Royal Mail appear to be gaining as much distance from each other as they can. Quite reminiscent of eBay & PayPal.

I'm not at all bothered about my personal purchases and returns with RM, they can be delayed as I'm patient when it comes to my personal post. My concern is my business postings to my customers i.e. my livelihood, as I am not particularly patient though when it comes to paying 'the bills' on time. That's why I hope that the striking and required changes pan out for you folks soon, so that things can return to a smoother process without the depot backlogs getting even more out of hand.

Good luck with all that.

[clashcityrocker]

All Thompson has to do is charge more for letters and small parcels and move us to a 5 day letters service instead of 6.

Putting up the price of stamps (again) may reduce the income from that stream as more people would turn away from sending letters.
The price we charge is regulated anyway.

Moving to a 5-day letter service would cost a lot of jobs. 1/6th of the workforce = 20 000 (worst case scenario.)
What do you think that would do to the CWU's finances? You could possibly destroy the CWU before Thompson.