Sign in sign out icon appeared on PDA homescreen

[2yearpostie]

Our office is very flexible with start and end times. I usually drop the kids and/or get stuck in traffic and I am often late, sometimes by an hour. No problem now, I finish later. Does this sign in thing mean I have to start on time? Some people say we do, some say not. Our manager is not sure. Anyone know? And I always take my break at the end as I don't want to stand around in a suburban street. Is that to stop too?

Our com has said they can put reasons if it things dont tally up, so is still letting us do a similar situation to you.

[robking]

I didn't notice it on my PDA when I logged in yesterday, but there was something different on there when I logged out. I didn't really look at it too much.

Our union rep says that sign in/out has been agreed by the union and that it's in our best interests not to log in more than 5mins before or more than 5mins after our official start time and to log out no earlier than 5mins before our official finish time.

Don't leave your PDA idle either, if you finish really early come back to the office and scan 2D barcodes on RTS, redirected, retained items or whatever to show that your PDA was still in use as close to your scheduled finish time as possible.

So does this mean as soon as you arrive for work you have to get in a queue 90 deep for your pda

It doesn't matter what time you arrive in the office and it doesn't matter what time you collect your PDA the advice is to log in to it at around your official starting time, ideally within 5mins either side.

In my office, once the locked cupboards are opened you walk up and collect your PDA there's not much of queue unless a dozen or more want to get them at the same time, even then it would be cleared within seconds.

[meako]

you only sign in on the pda if you are in a small office..In a large office you sign in with your identity card onto a pda thats on a table..Thats what we have been told by the management at our office.

[POSTMAN]

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It will allow you to look at your performance. How many items scanned amoungst other things.
The finer detail hasn’t come out but I would assume your personal performance if it’s attached to your PDA log in.
I imagine it’s nothing that I can’t already see on my tablet - But it will just allow you to see the data as well.

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[Cucumber]

Looks VERY like a speedometer in the "My Dashboard' icon.

Also, what constitutes a small office? Is it if they've no space for the static PDA desk/machine, they get to scan in/out on own PDA? Like that won't be abused, lol.

[noggin1969]

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[mickeymacca]

you only sign in on the pda if you are in a small office..In a large office you sign in with your identity card onto a pda thats on a table..Thats what we have been told by the management at our office.

Sorry for being thick.....but that means everyone will sign in on that one/or so PDA, that's not a quick process, especially if the log-in gremlins are failing to allow PDA log-in.

So that means all will have to return to the office after delivery? or can your partner swipe you out.....

[Wolf91]

Would have been more in RM’s interest to leave things
as they were. As the free hours they get every day (I can’t imagine how big this number actually is) should hopefully be coming to an end.
Oh well, guess they will have to up recruitment

[meako]

you only sign in on the pda if you are in a small office..In a large office you sign in with your identity card onto a pda thats on a table..Thats what we have been told by the management at our office.

Sorry for being thick.....but that means everyone will sign in on that one/or so PDA, that's not a quick process, especially if the log-in gremlins are failing to allow PDA log-in.

So that means all will have to return to the office after delivery? or can your partner swipe you out.....

Nope there are 6 tables for signing in and out with identity card...Also been told if you sign your m8 in and out it could be classed as fraud and open to being conduct coded.

[yellowbelly]

you only sign in on the pda if you are in a small office..In a large office you sign in with your identity card onto a pda thats on a table..Thats what we have been told by the management at our office.

Sorry for being thick.....but that means everyone will sign in on that one/or so PDA, that's not a quick process, especially if the log-in gremlins are failing to allow PDA log-in.

So that means all will have to return to the office after delivery? or can your partner swipe you out.....

I would like to think that if there is a SISO PDA at a desk that it will be always 'logged in' to a generic office login and just
be a 'dumb' PDA with just SISO functionality available and you will scan in with your ID card without having to individually
login/logout.

[SpacePhoenix]

I'd imagine that for the PDA based solution, if the SISO is done outside of the geo-fenced area then it'll probably get flagged up on some report somewhere. It might be that RM have the SISO out set-up so that it's disabled when outside of the geo-fenced area, to make everyone return to the DO.

[mjd24]

you only sign in on the pda if you are in a small office..In a large office you sign in with your identity card onto a pda thats on a table..Thats what we have been told by the management at our office.

Sorry for being thick.....but that means everyone will sign in on that one/or so PDA, that's not a quick process, especially if the log-in gremlins are failing to allow PDA log-in.

So that means all will have to return to the office after delivery? or can your partner swipe you out.....

How is it any different to everyone signing a sheet as they enter? Im in a huge office, 150+, and 90% of the time dont have to wait more than 5 seconds to sign the sheet.

[Duesouth]

I didn't notice it on my PDA when I logged in yesterday, but there was something different on there when I logged out. I didn't really look at it too much.

Our union rep says that sign in/out has been agreed by the union and that it's in our best interests not to log in more than 5mins before or more than 5mins after our official start time and to log out no earlier than 5mins before our official finish time.

Don't leave your PDA idle either, if you finish really early come back to the office and scan 2D barcodes on RTS, redirected, retained items or whatever to show that your PDA was still in use as close to your scheduled finish time as possible.

Let's say you scan out after the 5 minutes every day and it averages out that you've actually worked nearly 30 minutes and the manager asks you to take lapsing on the Saturday and refuse as you've already went over your contracted hours then what.

They can't force you to go over your CONTRACTED hours but many will take a blind eye to this and just carry on.

[mickeymacca]

you only sign in on the pda if you are in a small office..In a large office you sign in with your identity card onto a pda thats on a table..Thats what we have been told by the management at our office.

Sorry for being thick.....but that means everyone will sign in on that one/or so PDA, that's not a quick process, especially if the log-in gremlins are failing to allow PDA log-in.

So that means all will have to return to the office after delivery? or can your partner swipe you out.....

How is it any different to everyone signing a sheet as they enter? Im in a huge office, 150+, and 90% of the time dont have to wait more than 5 seconds to sign the sheet.

Its completely different...... Because/If you are going to have to sign in and sign out of a PDA that is unreliably slow at logging on at the best of times, and when a whole workforce (across the country) is attempting the same thing at around the same time, which I'd imagine may have an additional effect on the reliability, then that is significantly different than signing a sheet of paper where the only technical issues may be running out of ink....

[mickeymacca]

you only sign in on the pda if you are in a small office..In a large office you sign in with your identity card onto a pda thats on a table..Thats what we have been told by the management at our office.

Sorry for being thick.....but that means everyone will sign in on that one/or so PDA, that's not a quick process, especially if the log-in gremlins are failing to allow PDA log-in.

So that means all will have to return to the office after delivery? or can your partner swipe you out.....

I would like to think that if there is a SISO PDA at a desk that it will be always 'logged in' to a generic office login and just
be a 'dumb' PDA with just SISO functionality available and you will scan in with your ID card without having to individually
login/logout.

Yeah that would make sense