Meeting

[chickenwittle]

My guess would be both sides have discussed what they are prepared to move on ,union meet tomorrow to discuss next steps and what’s acceptable to them to bring this to an end, ahead of the meeting Wednesday.

[worktotime]

The CWU met with Royal Mail Group today.

We will update our branches fully tomorrow at a national briefing.

Talks will continue on Wednesday.

The strike planned for Thursday will go ahead.

It is absolutely critical that the focus remains on continuing to deliver the outstanding support for action we have seen thus far.

#StandByYourPost

Why not meet Tuesday obviously rm are time-wasting and there's no agreement due any time soon or they would be in talks Tuesday aswell

how are the company wasting time ? , we are out Thursday so they can try and string it out as much as they like as the strike days are set .

[worktotime]

My guess would be both sides have discussed what they are prepared to move on ,union meet tomorrow to discuss next steps and what’s acceptable to them to bring this to an end, ahead of the meeting Wednesday.

offer a no strings pay increase , remove all planned executive action , remove the notice served on the parts of the agreement and back to the agreement , or we carry on with I/A and more to come .

[grchpo]

All of that is never gonna happen, how about negotiating.

[chickenwittle]

My guess would be both sides have discussed what they are prepared to move on ,union meet tomorrow to discuss next steps and what’s acceptable to them to bring this to an end, ahead of the meeting Wednesday.

offer a no strings pay increase , remove all planned executive action , remove the notice served on the parts of the agreement and back to the agreement , or we carry on with I/A and more to come .

In an ideal world yes but realistically that’s not going to happen.

[worktotime]

My guess would be both sides have discussed what they are prepared to move on ,union meet tomorrow to discuss next steps and what’s acceptable to them to bring this to an end, ahead of the meeting Wednesday.

offer a no strings pay increase , remove all planned executive action , remove the notice served on the parts of the agreement and back to the agreement , or we carry on with I/A and more to come .

In an ideal world yes but realistically that’s not going to happen.

so we carry on then ,

[Surreypostie]

Terry told us at the start we can win this, I never believed him but I didn't like a lot of the proposals so I voted for and have taken action, I still don't believe we will win this. Thompson isn't budging, once we get past christmas nobody will give a s**t, maybe the board have factored in losses over this quarter saying the can break the union? What do I know? we are always kept in the dark, pawns we are, pawns.

[Grads75]

The CWU met with Royal Mail Group today.

We will update our branches fully tomorrow at a national briefing.

Talks will continue on Wednesday.

The strike planned for Thursday will go ahead.

It is absolutely critical that the focus remains on continuing to deliver the outstanding support for action we have seen thus far.

#StandByYourPost

Why not meet Tuesday obviously rm are time-wasting and there's no agreement due any time soon or they would be in talks Tuesday aswell

how are the company wasting time ? , we are out Thursday so they can try and string it out as much as they like as the strike days are set .

Seems like they are not negotiating fully or at all playing games so the sell off can take place

[wandle]

Terry told us at the start we can win this, I never believed him but I didn't like a lot of the proposals so I voted for and have taken action, I still don't believe we will win this. Thompson isn't budging, once we get past christmas nobody will give a s**t, maybe the board have factored in losses over this quarter saying the can break the union? What do I know? we are always kept in the dark, pawns we are, pawns.

Jesus, thought I was reading a script from Dad’s Army there. All it needed was signing-off with ‘we’re all doomed!’

I much prefer to think like Bob Crow: “If you fight you won't always win. But if you don't fight you will always lose”

Looks like the CWU has learned from past errors. Not suspending the strikes while the talks continue is what we should always have done. Should keep up the pressure on the board, and institutional shareholders will be applying pressure on Thompson, too. If we’re truly losing £1m a day (which I truly don’t believe), the major shareholders will be worried the next dividend will be axed. A low share price is, for them, tolerable while the income from dividends is attractive. Chop the dividend because of the CEOs uncompromising attitude, and Thompson will suffer the same fate as Rico Back

[sindba]

Terry told us at the start we can win this, I never believed him but I didn't like a lot of the proposals so I voted for and have taken action, I still don't believe we will win this. Thompson isn't budging, once we get past christmas nobody will give a s**t, maybe the board have factored in losses over this quarter saying the can break the union? What do I know? we are always kept in the dark, pawns we are, pawns.

Jesus, thought I was reading a script from Dad’s Army there. All it needed was signing-off with ‘we’re all doomed!’

I much prefer to think like Bob Crow: “If you fight you won't always win. But if you don't fight you will always lose”

Looks like the CWU has learned from past errors. Not suspending the strikes while the talks continue is what we should always have done. Should keep up the pressure on the board, and institutional shareholders will be applying pressure on Thompson, too. If we’re truly losing £1m a day (which I truly don’t believe), the major shareholders will be worried the next dividend will be axed. A low share price is, for them, tolerable while the income from dividends is attractive. Chop the dividend because of the CEOs uncompromising attitude, and Thompson will suffer the same fate as Rico Back

Exactly right.

We fight, we might get better pay, terms and conditions than Royal Mail want us to have. We don't fight, we at their mercy.

It's really not hard to understand!

[k979aaa]

It is not as simple as factoring in loss of business we will lose these customers forever so they the Royal Mail better start talking sense instead of tough talking as they are on the back foot. We have not even started yet wait till the rolling action kicks in and see what happens!

[1617mel]

Our best bet will and not all of you guys are going to agree, is a slow change bringing in the changes ie after start time, clock in /clock out ,Sunday compulsory so many times a year etc.. Christmas is coming our company and the majority of us, want to put our best foot forward to help deliver CHristmas for all our customers and their children, let's hop we can get an acceptable and sensible offer from above, .......until the next time

[qwerty2]

Our best bet will and not all of you guys are going to agree, is a slow change bringing in the changes ie after start time, clock in /clock out ,Sunday compulsory so many times a year etc.. Christmas is coming our company and the majority of us, want to put our best foot forward to help deliver CHristmas for all our customers and their children, let's hop we can get an acceptable and sensible offer from above, .......until the next time

F*** Xmas - this is our only and last chance to get a good deal

[hans solo]

correct f**k xmas
during the pandemic we were essential workers ie.they coudnt do without us especially xmas
now they dont give a damn
and amazon need us as well as they will not cope at xmas without us

[priority102]

Our best bet will and not all of you guys are going to agree, is a slow change bringing in the changes ie after start time, clock in /clock out,Sunday compulsory so many times a year etc.. Christmas is coming our company and the majority of us, want to put our best foot forward to help deliver CHristmas for all our customers and their children, let's hope we can get an acceptable and sensible offer from above, .......until the next time

Make no mistake, everything RM want WILL eventually come, whether the union like it or not. Every year you lose something in exchange for a little pay rise, and union members fall for it every year without exception as members concentrate on what percentage pay increase they are going to get (which is almost straightaway) but don't pay much attention to the other bits that RM are going to reign in a litter further up the road - which the union have agreed to surrender.

Here's a few of what has been surrendered:

PHG grade with what was back then nearly £30 a week extra for doing the same job and responsibilities as a locker person does now. If an ordinary trained postie covered that job for holidays or sick they received the extra too.

D2D payments per item - a damn good earner for most posties. Given how much bigger your walks are now, think how much this would have been worth each week now!

Sat/Sun premium payments.

Night Duty Allowance (NDA) on any hours worked pre either 5am or 6am (I can't remember)

Driving Allowance (even for small vans) £6 per week.

Increased Driving Allowance for any van above standard Vivaro size (400's) - something like £20 odd pounds per week, pro rata for the amount of uses, but you were given that even if you used one to take a late special out!!!

Training Allowance for basically anything you showed someone else - £3 per day.

Cycle allowance for maintaining the cycles - for anyone who was trained.