UK's CWU Union to meet Royal Mail bosses to discuss pay

[ted_e_bear]

It is scary how thick the public are you see comments in the newspapers like I wouldn't miss letters I've got email like they never going to get another doctors appointment or any other important document for the rest of there life.

The fact that RM keep spouting BS about there being no letters anymore really grinds my gears. (No stats about falling DSA please SP)!

The last week we've been trying to clear the backlog from those two days of Strikes ... I have no problem with the consequences of the Strikes .... but it really brought home just how much mail we're still delivering.

The frames were creaking with the ammount of mail stuffed into the slots, plus Households. A lot of DPs had literaally Bundles of mail the size of a Telephone Directory. I took out 25% extra trays of mail. And we're just a Parcels Delivery Firm? You wish Simon.

Too right about the mail, apart from a slight drop on Friday/Saturday we were hammered last week, only 1 tray of sequenced on 1st wave followed by the usual tray of walksort unsequenced on the 2nd, but on top of that ips gone mad with all the manual, we certainly spent a lot more time sorting and delivering mail than we did parcels, mon-thurs call rates were right up.

[TopperGas]

I'm sensing mail to bushiness could well be the lions share of the reduction, I can't imagine mail to houses could have ever been much lower, as otherwise a postie would have never delivered it all on a bike, I took out 4 boxes of mail in a van yesterday on just a 3 hour delivery route, although our DO did got hit with the NT Magazines.

[stripeypaw]

So the strap line 'we are losing a million pounds a day' how much is a postal worker being under valued by per day bet the 115000 employees as a whole are losing far greater

[1560loopsayear]

On Monday why can't Royal Mail just agree to grant their employees the national average pay rise for the private sector 5.7%... put the pay rise strikes to bed then we can pause any industrial action while they thrash out the changes to terms and conditions?

[Acca Dacca]

On Monday why can't Royal Mail just agree to grant their employees the national average pay rise for the private sector 5.7%... put the pay rise strikes to bed then we can pause any industrial action while they thrash out the changes to terms and conditions?

Thank God you arent part of the CWU negotiating team

[kazardaimenu]

On Monday why can't Royal Mail just agree to grant their employees the national average pay rise for the private sector 5.7%... put the pay rise strikes to bed then we can pause any industrial action while they thrash out the changes to terms and conditions?

Saw someone put this to Simon a couple of Months ago but he refused to entertain that idea due to failed revisions.

[Clappedoutpostie]

Saw someone put this to Simon a couple of Months ago but he refused to entertain that idea due to failed revisions.

His failed revisions.

[postieblueshirt]

tonnes of mail parcel company my arse end of

[norris9]

It is scary how thick the public are you see comments in the newspapers like I wouldn't miss letters I've got email like they never going to get another doctors appointment or any other important document for the rest of there life.

The fact that RM keep spouting BS about there being no letters anymore really grinds my gears. (No stats about falling DSA please SP)!

The last week we've been trying to clear the backlog from those two days of Strikes ... I have no problem with the consequences of the Strikes .... but it really brought home just how much mail we're still delivering.

The frames were creaking with the ammount of mail stuffed into the slots, plus Households. A lot of DPs had literaally Bundles of mail the size of a Telephone Directory. I took out 25% extra trays of mail. And we're just a Parcels Delivery Firm? You wish Simon.

True... and if the letters aren't making them as much money as they like.....they can simply put the prices up as much as necessary.

[SpacePhoenix]

It is scary how thick the public are you see comments in the newspapers like I wouldn't miss letters I've got email like they never going to get another doctors appointment or any other important document for the rest of there life.

The fact that RM keep spouting BS about there being no letters anymore really grinds my gears. (No stats about falling DSA please SP)!

The last week we've been trying to clear the backlog from those two days of Strikes ... I have no problem with the consequences of the Strikes .... but it really brought home just how much mail we're still delivering.

The frames were creaking with the ammount of mail stuffed into the slots, plus Households. A lot of DPs had literaally Bundles of mail the size of a Telephone Directory. I took out 25% extra trays of mail. And we're just a Parcels Delivery Firm? You wish Simon.

Take away the backlog from the strikes and letters ARE dropping off. Over recent months the number of trays for each batch has been way less. We used to have around 18-20 trays per batch, now 12-14 is probably about the average. The late shift never seg the trays of local mail that they have sorted, and from that I can see that if you exclude non-regular bulk postings, flats are also way down now. The only section not seeing a drop in traffic is Tracked. The SD locker saw a big drop in traffic when the foreign specials started going through as Tracked

[pieoftheday]

It's odd how various offices see differences in mail, ourDO now manually sorts way more letters than we get sequenced and the DROP in letters definitely isn't noticeable, I'm ignoring strike consequences. Foreign specials still come via the specials locker and not tracked. Incidentally the first 3 loops of my current delivery is roughly the same size as afull delivery I did 30yrs ago and packets aside I would not have been able to get it in my bag, yes believe it or not one bag was a whole delivery, occasionally 2 but the manager wouldn't be keen on you having another bag been brought out to you

[aiden01]

On Monday why can't Royal Mail just agree to grant their employees the national average pay rise for the private sector 5.7%... put the pay rise strikes to bed then we can pause any industrial action while they thrash out the changes to terms and conditions?

Wtf

[2chorizon]

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Take away the backlog from the strikes and letters ARE dropping off. Over recent months the number of trays for each batch has been way less. We used to have around 18-20 trays per batch, now 12-14 is probably about the average. The late shift never seg the trays of local mail that they have sorted, and from that I can see that if you exclude non-regular bulk postings, flats are also way down now. The only section not seeing a drop in traffic is Tracked. The SD locker saw a big drop in traffic when the foreign specials started going through as Tracked
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Same in my MC, the only section not dropping off is Tracked heavy & large, SD locker virtually kapput with the loss of all the Post Express (int tracked & signed) it all gets dumped in the PSM now.
Mech crews scratching for work most nights too.

[ted_e_bear]

Same in my MC, the only section not dropping off is Tracked heavy & large, SD locker virtually kapput with the loss of all the Post Express (int tracked & signed) it all gets dumped in the PSM now.
Mech crews scratching for work most nights too.
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Currently we're receiving loads of what I'd class as standard letters to manually sort on ips, presume it maybe doesn't work like that but if you're scratching about looking for work how about slapping a few more through the sequencing machine.

[SpacePhoenix]

Currently we're receiving loads of what I'd class as standard letters to manually sort on ips, presume it maybe doesn't work like that but if you're scratching about looking for work how about slapping a few more through the sequencing machine.

Do they have two proper length orange barcodes on them?

Do they look machinable?

It's possible that if your local MC is really short on staff (they might have had the use of any OT and/casuals/agency blocked) then they might have moved some or all of their mech staff onto packets (or more likely) Tracked.

I personally if I feel a letter has a reasonable chance of going through the machine, it goes over to the machine, sometimes it might mean hand feeding them into the machine (often needed for A5 sized card ones). Don't know about IMPs but iLSMs have a module that culls any item that's

* Too thick
* Too stiff
* Too big/small
* Contains something metal

If the orange barcodes are incomplete or printed badly then the machine will reject them (the CSS machines will reject any item without the orange barcodes in the corner that it expects to find them).

Sometimes the machine has only enough info from the address to sort it to office level only.

Sometimes if a lorry arrives late the mail will get run on a sort plan that's down to office level only.

If the batch you're walk is on is an early batch for wave 2, it's more than possible that you'd end up with way more mail from that batch going manual then walk sorted. Walk sorting of wave 2 has to start before plan 1 has finished being run