What have we learned?

[daveyeff]

Im sure i used those exact same words when rico came in.

[POSTPERSON50]

RM wont be getting ANY of the things they want unless the workforce is on board. They need to realise this and get Thompson out and put someone in who has people skills.

Like who?
This obsession with people doesn't really get us anywhere.
Let's get rid of Rico. And then what happened?
If we get rid of Thompson then what happens?

Exactly. Like Premier League boards who sack their managers every two minutes but never consider that it's their choices that are shi*e, the business needs a complete overhaul upstairs

Saying that, Royal Mail is ground zero for thick management.

[Woody Guthrie]

Although you're both right that who is at the top doesn't really make much difference Simon Thompson is not your usual kind of CEO.

He has a long history of failure, friends inside the Tory government and a narcissistic lack of empathy which elevates him above the normal level of dangerous.

To write him off as just another CEO is an underestimation of the damage he could cause.

[derekm]

It does surprise me how the announcement of the 19 days strike action hasn't really changed sentiment with the company.

I think they are resolute this time, the whole thing has been orchestrated by them, goading the union into striking with executive action and holding an uncompromising approach in negotiations.

I genuinely think this isn't going to end well from the workers perspective, ultimately if the business is loss making, which it will be if strike action continues, then radical changes will be implemented, and the union will be powerless to stop it. The reality is if compulsory redundancy was on the table how many would sacrifice their job for an increase in pay with no changes?

I think this is where it's ultimately heading, the company gets taken over, everyone is fired and rehired under new T&C's. Royal Mail UK gets split from GLS and ParcelForce and operates by itself for a length of time and continues to be loss making. As a result the company asks the government to drop the USO by 1 day to keep it viable, potential for job losses. Later on parts of the business that can be operated cheaper will, like the franchising of delivery, closing down of smaller offices in favour of bigger centralised offices. Franchising out the logistics side to contractors. Closing surplus processing operations in mail centres.

The potential for cost savings with this company are in effect huge, and that will all translate to profit for the shareholders and that's what they are going after now.

So how long did it take for you to work that one out.??? No disrespect but it’s been his aim from the very beginning out to destroy the cwu

[grchpo]

Is it true after 12 weeks of strikes he can sack us all, wouldn't put it past him, perfect chance for him to reduce staff without redundancy.

[POSTPERSON50]

Although you're both right that who is at the top doesn't really make much difference Simon Thompson is not your usual kind of CEO.

He has a long history of failure, friends inside the Tory government and a narcissistic lack of empathy which elevates him above the normal level of dangerous.

To write him off as just another CEO is an underestimation of the damage he could cause.

The fact that Thompson was chosen despite that long history of failure illustrates the point though.

The lot of them are poison.

[scoobydo79]

Is it true after 12 weeks of strikes he can sack us all, wouldn't put it past him, perfect chance for him to reduce staff without redundancy.

Yes technically after 12 weeks because He can claim now He wanted to involve ACAS and has tried to resolve it. (Yes I know it’s a piss poor effort)The Union are going to make sure they aren’t caught on their back foot here.

[TopperGas]

Is it true after 12 weeks of strikes he can sack us all, wouldn't put it past him, perfect chance for him to reduce staff without redundancy.

Yes technically after 12 weeks because He can claim now He wanted to involve ACAS and has tried to resolve it. (Yes I know it’s a piss poor effort)The Union are going to make sure they aren’t caught on their back foot here.

You can just imagine the public reaction if he did try and dismiss all the posties, when they even start petition when their regular postie is moved off their round.

[world class male]

What have We learned? Never trust a CEO
“Meet the new boss same as the old boss”

who?

[daveyeff]

Yes

[grchpo]

Is it true after 12 weeks of strikes he can sack us all, wouldn't put it past him, perfect chance for him to reduce staff without redundancy.

Yes technically after 12 weeks because He can claim now He wanted to involve ACAS and has tried to resolve it. (Yes I know it’s a piss poor effort)The Union are going to make sure they aren’t caught on their back foot here.

You can just imagine the public reaction if he did try and dismiss all the posties, when they even start petition when their regular postie is moved off their round.

Half of the public didn't realise we were on strike & the other half didn't care. We need to let them know what's happening, it's not just about pay.

[Binsey]

RM wont be getting ANY of the things they want unless the workforce is on board. They need to realise this and get Thompson out and put someone in who has people skills.

Like who?
This obsession with people doesn't really get us anywhere.
Let's get rid of Rico. And then what happened?
If we get rid of Thompson then what happens?

100%

[walthmstowman]

1. We have learned that we were wrong to hope or even expect that our employer would enter the pay negotiations with an understanding or a degree of empathy towards the hardship that many are experiencing at this time.

2.We have learned that their pay offer was designed not as an initial offer and part of a process of meaningful negotiations but as the first step in a plan to widen and intensify the dispute as part of their strategy to "attack" or "tackle" the CWU, and the terms and conditions of the employees it represents.

3.We have learned that the need to get involved in "distasteful" and disingenuous words and actions in the process of running his business and achieving his version of success, only reveals the CEO's significant character failings. Success at any price is not success.

We also know that while there is no money for a reasonable pay offer, there is always money for dividends, there is money for vouchers and attendance incentives for managers. We know that 5 minutes after a settlement is made we will be going to work in our spanking new uniforms, new electric vans will be rolling into the yards and money will be miraculously found for a large number of management projects.

4, You forgot we also learned that Thompson isn't interested about growing and expending the company and using our market advantage . He's only concerned about breaking up the company and destroying the '"Royal Mail" brand . Basically he's just a hatchet man . Anybody can destroy a company and look at how much money he's on . Any one of us could do the same job as him for half the price and then happily retire .

[Revpro 83]

I think if unite got on board too then we’ve got a chance of sorting it out.

[Revpro 83]

I think if unite got on board too then we’ve got a chance of sorting it out.
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