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Grads75
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Re: 7pm tomorrow CWU online

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After watching dave ward at the Labour conference for keir starmer to come to the picket lines with us and renationilise Royal mail. I was thinking what difference does it make labour can't come into power until 2024 anyway by the time that comes around we will all be on minimum wage with no terms and conditions if we lose can someone give more insight on how asking for labour party help can get us out of this and what could happen positively for us cheers
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Re: 7pm tomorrow CWU online

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Grads75 wrote:
27 Sep 2022, 15:09
After watching dave ward at the Labour conference for keir starmer to come to the picket lines with us and renationilise Royal mail. I was thinking what difference does it make labour can't come into power until 2024 anyway by the time that comes around we will all be on minimum wage with no terms and conditions if we lose can someone give more insight on how asking for labour party help can get us out of this and what could happen positively for us cheers
ANYONE who even half thinks that the government will re-nationalise RM couldn't be more deluded.

Letters (good letters) are in serious decline with e-mails/e-mails with attachments/BACS payments/text messages taking over (instant delivery and at a fraction of the cost and effort), and competition has never been stronger for parcels.

Add to that the constant guns drawn between workers and management, it is a poisoned chalice for the government to even consider taking on, and that's not taking into account the current economic situation.

The only possibility would be if RM goes bust....and THEN see the cuts happen!
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drfeelgood
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Re: 7pm tomorrow CWU online

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After watching the last 2 'Urgent' invites, which proved to be nothing but waffle, all I want to hear tonight is that we will be striking for a week or more during Christmas pressure.

As many people have already said on here it needs to be mail centres one day, distribution the next day then delivery staff the next day, all rolling for a week or more. That way no one section takes a pay hit every day.

If we wait until Christmas is over then we have lost, its as simple as that. Hit hard, strike over Christmas pressure for maximum impact!

Also, we dont need a work to rule ballot to maximise the effect of the strikes, all people need to do is come in at their start time and finish at their finish time, thereby doing no overtime to clear strike mail !!
BenacreNick
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Who is Andy Furey please ?
BenacreNick
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Snooker is on at 7pm :arrrghhh 🎱🎱🎱🎱🎱🎱🎱
clashcityrocker
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Re: 7pm tomorrow CWU online

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BenacreNick wrote:
27 Sep 2022, 15:58
Who is Andy Furey please ?
He is covering for Terry Pullinger while he is off sick.
The societies of consumption and squandering of material resources are incompatible with the idea of economic growth and a clean planet.
BenacreNick
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Thank-you ClashCityRocker. :wave
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Re: 7pm tomorrow CWU online

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priority102 wrote:
27 Sep 2022, 15:36

ANYONE who even half thinks that the government will re-nationalise RM couldn't be more deluded.

Letters (good letters) are in serious decline with e-mails/e-mails with attachments/BACS payments/text messages taking over (instant delivery and at a fraction of the cost and effort), and competition has never been stronger for parcels.

Add to that the constant guns drawn between workers and management, it is a poisoned chalice for the government to even consider taking on, and that's not taking into account the current economic situation.

The only possibility would be if RM goes bust....and THEN see the cuts happen!

You're right

Even Labour has no intentions of nationalising the rail, energy and water companies which is a complete U-turn of what Keir Starmer said in 2020 as he is now taking a more 'pragmatic' approach rather than an 'ideological' one. So whilst these companies remain privatised millions of pounds will keep going to shareholders. In fact, the big energy retail companies made billions in dividends in the last 10 years. If that was publicly owned they could have re-invested it into greener energy or improving staff pay and conditions but British Gas decided to subject their workers to fire and rehire practices last year instead.

And whilst I'm going round the houses, its worth mentioning that 7,000 British Gas engineers staged 44 days of strike action after the company threatened to sack them if they didn’t sign up to these detrimental changes to their terms and conditions. In the end, almost 500 workers were dismissed. However, there was a new deal that offered improvements to overtime rates and unsocial hours payments, places limits on the amount of unsocial working undertaken, reverses the decision to close the defined benefit pension scheme to new starters and opens the door for those who left the business to return. GMB members accepted the deal by 75.5% to 24.5%.

https://www.gmb.org.uk/news/british-gas ... d-pay-deal


None of that would have been possible but for the tremendous sacrifice of Union members.
On the face of it, shareholder value is the dumbest idea in the world.
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Re: 7pm tomorrow CWU online

Post by k979aaa »

clashcityrocker wrote:
27 Sep 2022, 16:15
BenacreNick wrote:
27 Sep 2022, 15:58
Who is Andy Furey please ?
He is covering for Terry Pullinger while he is off sick.
He is the post office section of the union but their fight is our fight and vice versa!
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Re: 7pm tomorrow CWU online

Post by yellowbelly »

postslippete wrote:
27 Sep 2022, 17:00
priority102 wrote:
27 Sep 2022, 15:36

ANYONE who even half thinks that the government will re-nationalise RM couldn't be more deluded.

Letters (good letters) are in serious decline with e-mails/e-mails with attachments/BACS payments/text messages taking over (instant delivery and at a fraction of the cost and effort), and competition has never been stronger for parcels.

Add to that the constant guns drawn between workers and management, it is a poisoned chalice for the government to even consider taking on, and that's not taking into account the current economic situation.

The only possibility would be if RM goes bust....and THEN see the cuts happen!

You're right

Even Labour has no intentions of nationalising the rail, energy and water companies which is a complete U-turn of what Keir Starmer said in 2020 as he is now taking a more 'pragmatic' approach rather than an 'ideological' one.

.............

Re-nationalising the railways might be on the cards........

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... ction.html
postslippete
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yellowbelly wrote:
27 Sep 2022, 17:31

Re-nationalising the railways might be on the cards........

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... ction.html

Wish he would make his mind up! Reading the article it does say that the rail industry is mostly in public ownership so it probably wouldn't cost them anything.
On the face of it, shareholder value is the dumbest idea in the world.
norris9
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Re: 7pm tomorrow CWU online

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what is the latest Simon Thompson letter about? forcing in all changes and more?
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Re: 7pm tomorrow CWU online

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Just watched Starmers conference speech today on youtube. Thought is was brilliant tbh. No notes either.
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Re: 7pm tomorrow CWU online

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RTP wrote:
27 Sep 2022, 18:20
Just watched Starmers conference speech today on youtube. Thought is was brilliant tbh. No notes either.
They have clear screens in front of them with the speech on them, 1 to the left, 1 to the right and another in the middle.