Why we might have to work to rule in the longer term

[Clappedoutpostie]

Working to rule will require a ballot never say this to a manager you could be sacked for it just saying it say instead" I will perform to the standards and regulations of the terms I am employed by in my contract."

I believe you can have a vote locally to work to rule if you follow the correct procedure. The CWU should have also put this on the ballot paper nationally.

[Dogbone1510]

I got done by Simon and his cronies as had 1 week holiday then caught covid so now have missed out on 4 weeks holiday about 600 I contacted hi. On workplace and he is basically hiding behind the wording of the policy no legal at all I usually work.about 6 hrs a week.
so when it gets busy I'm finishing on my time I advise all.others to do the same but they won't.

[k979aaa]

Working to rule will require a ballot never say this to a manager you could be sacked for it just saying it say instead" I will perform to the standards and regulations of the terms I am employed by in my contract."

I believe you can have a vote locally to work to rule if you follow the correct procedure. The CWU should have also put this on the ballot paper nationally.

How would that work? As every ballot paper is non traceable nor office defined!

[postieblueshirt]

i agree lets face it the cost of living as it is there strategy will be to starve us out and they will win in the end,theres no attempt whatsoever to stop this strike.rm it seems couldnt care less.

Simon has a very good pokerface and Royal Mail are bluffing right now so that they can get the best possible deal. As a veteran of previous strikes, this is exactly what Royal Mail do. They propose all sorts of demands that they know won't get accepted in the vain hope that they can make a few stick and offer us a measly pay increase in return. So its really a case of the lesser of the two evils - either they need to reduce or get rid of some of their proposals or offer more money to postal workers.

There is a lot of FUD right now. Royal Mail can introduce agency workers, they can say that they have a plan to deal with the strikes, that letters will suddenly be delivered 3 days a week because Royal Mail only paid £400 million to shareholders and recorded a £311 million profit last year. But now all of a sudden the company is losing £1 million a day and will go bankrupt and we will all lose our jobs etc etc etc. Royal Mail is awash with cash - don't let anybody tell you any different!! Unlike many other companies that really suffered during the pandemic, Royal Mail didn't and it has always had a very healthy balance sheet.

It is in Royal Mail's interests to reach an AGREEMENT. Because while they try and 'starve us out' as you call it, the company will lose business, the shareholders lose confidence and unfortunately when that happens it usually ends with the resignation or sacking of Simon Thompson. Perhaps he knows this and thats why he's already pocketed his bonus while he's had the chance. Maybe he will also scoop up thousands of pounds worth of cheap shares if they get any lower like Rico Back did!

Appreciate the reply I've been out on every strike since 1995 do you not get the feeling this one is a bit different.pokerface or not I think they couldn't give a f@ck at the moment they want a trial run at agency delivering there strategy.hope I'm wrong but this feels different.

[Woody Guthrie]

Working to rule will require a ballot never say this to a manager you could be sacked for it just saying it say instead" I will perform to the standards and regulations of the terms I am employed by in my contract."

I believe you can have a vote locally to work to rule if you follow the correct procedure. The CWU should have also put this on the ballot paper nationally.

You would need your branch to authorise a rule 13 ballot.
At the moment that's highly unlikely.
To be honest what's being described on here would not be a work to rule but an overtime ban.
A work to rule is completely different and pretty complicated to organise and supervise.

[Rapido123]

We did this when they brought in shared vans, we did it off our own backs as we thought delivery’s were to big.In on time, had our break, used trolleys and returned to office on time unable to complete.Duties were then reduced in size, as I remember we stood together. This was done without union involvement, we were doing the job properly not working to rule.

[redrobbo]

Same is happening in my office postie's running round their delivery working through breaks not booking overtime coming in before start time then moaning cos they have to lapse unless we all start doing the job properly we'll never hit rm where it hurts

[twoloops]

All big companies employ a small amount of fruit loops & retards, without them companies like RM would not exist, look around your office I can guarantee you can roll those names off your tongue without thinking to hard, they usually work in the callers office on a Sunday, take their empty bags home, work their day off, have like 40/50 days holiday owning them from years ago, been here since school, sadly that’s what we are dealing with, posties that feel honoured to work for RM.

[Wolf91]

All big companies employ a small amount of fruit loops & retards, without them companies like RM would not exist, look around your office I can guarantee you can roll those names off your tongue without thinking to hard, they usually work in the callers office on a Sunday, take their empty bags home, work their day off, have like 40/50 days holiday owning them from years ago, been here since school, sadly that’s what we are dealing with, posties that feel honoured to work for RM.

Saddos we call them - and yes we have a few

[SpacePhoenix]

We did this when they brought in shared vans, we did it off our own backs as we thought delivery’s were to big.In on time, had our break, used trolleys and returned to office on time unable to complete.Duties were then reduced in size, as I remember we stood together. This was done without union involvement, we were doing the job properly not working to rule.

Trouble is these days "doing the job properly" by most of an office is likely to be construed by RM as being unofficial industrial action unless it has been balloted for

[jessicarabbit]

How can taking your breaks and using the designated equipment and not working past your finishing time be considered unofficial industrial action? I personally have been doing this for years but the whole reason this never catches on is because every individual has different circumstances and feels like they can't turn down ot for fear of not getting a permanent contract or coming in early as they feel they need to finish on time to hide their own inefficiency or just want a bit of extra money or time to themselves. It's the reason we don't ever do work to rule.

[postslippete]

A work to rule is completely different and pretty complicated to organise and supervise.

Just as well the managers didn't go through with that one then

[Woody Guthrie]

How can taking your breaks and using the designated equipment and not working past your finishing time be considered unofficial industrial action?

Pretty much anything that looks like it is organised and not spontaneous and individual choice can be considered as industrial action.

It's only really an issue if the union is implicated.

Wildcat industrial action still happens though it used to be more common but you have to be careful because the legal protection isn't as solid.

[jessicarabbit]

I don't presume to know everyone's personal circumstances. The do your job poster and the working for free stops 10 people getting made full time in your office poster are still on the notice board upstairs in the canteen where no one goes now because they all skip their breaks before going on delivery. It's as much about personal pride for me. I don't know what the answer is....I just need to get a decent IHR package when my feet finally give up and then I'm afraid it's every man for themselves. This dispute feels different and more scary than the others I've had the privilege of taking part in.

[tmac]

We have the runners in our place , come in early run around don't take there meal relief. They are all guys in there 30/40 . I don't think they will have a job to go to if they keep on.