Surely if annualised hours comes in then people will think " if I stay out longer in summer I'll do less in winter " take breaks and not rush out .
The smart ones will have done the hrs by Dec 1st or at least be on par with hrs actually worked versus target hrs
Thats not how it would work imo
It would be an annualised version of longs and shorts
In the current longs and shorts system, you have shorter days and longer days that add up to your weekly hours so they would basically have monthly or seasonal longs and shorts where you are contracted to do less hours in the summer and more in the winter - for instance by changing your start time to 1 hour later in the summer months and 1 hour earlier in the peak pressure months
Anything over that would be normal OT
But if you do longs and shorts just now, and start later on a Tuesday than on a Friday for instance - you cant just work over your time on the Tuesday and then tell your boss you are now doing less hours on the Friday
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
How would that work if you took 3-4 weeks of sick or annual leave in the claw back months. You would be working less hours over the year than your colleagues. What about someone who joins in the winter they would be working 45 hours a week for only 37 hours pay on the promise that you may work less in the summer. It's a total wind up and couldn't be managed properly in this business. Still writing down my overtime on a bit of paper still no SISO it's all about the negotiation tactic and trying to scare us into accepting the crumbs they offer.
The rep says if they got annualised hours in it will completely eradicate overtime. 5.5-6.5 hour days in summer and lighter months...10 hour days in winter heavier months.
The rep says if they got annualised hours in it will completely eradicate overtime. 5.5-6.5 hour days in summer and lighter months...10 hour days in winter heavier months.
Oh so theyd totally re do the duties for the summer months? Yes it gets lighter in the summer but i dont think most of us are finishing more than an hour early even on the lightest of days … but i suppose i dont really know what even my office co workers are doing let alone other offices.
Today was insanley light and felt easy(ish) to be able to get done 45 minutes early, which isnt that much really. And its still exhausting and physical work.
On my walk there isn’t much difference between the lighter and heavier days time wise. I’m covering similar distances so I’m not getting these ultra short days like some deliveries would. I also take at least half hour before I leave the office to.
On my walk there isn’t much difference between the lighter and heavier days time wise. I’m covering similar distances so I’m not getting these ultra short days like some deliveries would. I also take at least half hour before I leave the office to.
Even if you cover similar distances if mail and parcels are light then you don't have to visit as many properties and also wait for customers to answer their doors?
Although the big savings must be on rural routes if you can avoid driving down drives etc?
On my walk there isn’t much difference between the lighter and heavier days time wise. I’m covering similar distances so I’m not getting these ultra short days like some deliveries would. I also take at least half hour before I leave the office to.
Even if you cover similar distances if mail and parcels are light then you don't have to visit as many properties and also wait for customers to answer their doors?
Although the big savings must be on rural routes if you can avoid driving down drives etc?
Savings where there's lots of blocks of flats (no need to visit every floor, sometimes no need to even visit a block)?
The rep says if they got annualised hours in it will completely eradicate overtime. 5.5-6.5 hour days in summer and lighter months...10 hour days in winter heavier months.
10 hour days. Maybe working 5 days a week. Duty spans a massive 7-8 hours. Posties coming in at 7am and finishing at 5pm.
Half of the posties will be keeling over and ringing in sick in the winter.
On the face of it, shareholder value is the dumbest idea in the world.
Surely if annualised hours comes in then people will think " if I stay out longer in summer I'll do less in winter " take breaks and not rush out .
The smart ones will have done the hrs by Dec 1st or at least be on par with hrs actually worked versus target hrs
Thats not how it would work imo
It would be an annualised version of longs and shorts
In the current longs and shorts system, you have shorter days and longer days that add up to your weekly hours so they would basically have monthly or seasonal longs and shorts where you are contracted to do less hours in the summer and more in the winter - for instance by changing your start time to 1 hour later in the summer months and 1 hour earlier in the peak pressure months
Anything over that would be normal OT
But if you do longs and shorts just now, and start later on a Tuesday than on a Friday for instance - you cant just work over your time on the Tuesday and then tell your boss you are now doing less hours on the Friday
And if that happened all would take is everyone in summer to work their now reduced hours and cut off everyday and they could have a mess during the summer months as well as during the busy winter months.
If they bring it in and they want me working 6 hour days in the summer that's what I'll do and not a minute over, I'd hope the majority would as well and I'm sure it'd be chucked in the skip along with the world class mail flowcharts
RM don't give a s**t about letters, USO or no USO they do not care.
The idea (if you can call it that) will be shorter days in the summer and no overtime - so you cut off and take stuff back, as long as you clear Specials and Tracked. In their world there won't be a backlog because their figures show it will take less time and everything will be done in that time.
Their pie in the sky thoughts on this shows how distanced they are from reality. Same as the talk of vans only being used for 6 hours a day so lets think of ways to use them more. They are trying to manage the business using spreadsheets and on the basis that every duty and every day is exactly as their figures/thoughts/plans say they are.
As the thread title says, it is the "race to the bottom" and RM are heading full pelt at it because they are only looking at cutting costs and assuming everything else can still be done. Advisers and cronies at the top who have absolutely no idea what goes on, but think that they know better than anyone who does the job.
Royal Mail
failing the workforce, failing the public and deliberately failing mail on a daily basis for too many years.
The rep says if they got annualised hours in it will completely eradicate overtime. 5.5-6.5 hour days in summer and lighter months...10 hour days in winter heavier months.
Summer / lighter months hours would 6.5hr day x 5 days = 32.5hr week, but paid 37hrs per week. That's only a saving of 4.5hr per week or 54min per day, again assuming you are able to complete your workload within your time, taking your paid breaks (if they have not been removed) etc. If you can't then it's cut off or O/T.
Winter months or peak or what ever it will be called, you would be working 41.5hr (37hr + 4.5hr saving from summer) week, but paid 37hrs per week, if you can't complete, it's either cut off or O/T.
Now, I'm not sure, what RM's plan is, if any, pay a standard 37hr week (FT) no matter if it's summer or winter time, 6.5hr summer day or 10hr winter day and Zero O/T.
Summer / lighter months hours would 6.5hr day x 5 days = 32.5hr week, but paid 37hrs per week. That's only a saving of 4.5hr per week or 54min per day, again assuming you are able to complete your workload within your time, taking your paid breaks (if they have not been removed) etc. If you can't then it's cut off or O/T.
Winter months or peak or what ever it will be called, you would be working 41.5hr (37hr + 4.5hr saving from summer) week, but paid 37hrs per week, if you can't complete, it's either cut off or O/T.
Now, I'm not sure, what RM's plan is, if any, pay a standard 37hr week (FT) no matter if it's summer or winter time, 6.5hr summer day or 10hr winter day and Zero O/T.
How did you get 10 hour days from 41 hour week over 5 days? Thats not 10 hours a day.
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
