Summary of the proposed agreement

[ArchieG]

How many of you hardcore union people looking for another job outside of royal mail? And have you found anything that offers the pay/afternoon finishs and conditions you expect?

Zzzzzz

[2yearpostie]

How many of you hardcore union people looking for another job outside of royal mail? And have you found anything that offers the pay/afternoon finishs and conditions you expect?

Zzzzzz

Genuine question.
When I didnt like my previous job,I left. Just wondered how many of you are looking and what youve found.

[FilthyBloke]

How many of you hardcore union people looking for another job outside of royal mail? And have you found anything that offers the pay/afternoon finishs and conditions you expect?

Zzzzzz

Genuine question.
When I didnt like my previous job,I left. Just wondered how many of you are looking and what youve found.

I think for most posties, even with the proposed changes, it’ll still be an ideal job for them. Not as good as it was but still fine.
Might be other jobs out there that are better for some people but in general I think most will stay.

[profpieman]

How many of you hardcore union people looking for another job outside of royal mail? And have you found anything that offers the pay/afternoon finishs and conditions you expect?

Zzzzzz

Genuine question.
When I didnt like my previous job,I left. Just wondered how many of you are looking and what youve found.

I thought you'd left here, what a gobshite you are

[antcpfc]

How many of you hardcore union people looking for another job outside of royal mail? And have you found anything that offers the pay/afternoon finishs and conditions you expect?

Zzzzzz

Genuine question.
When I didnt like my previous job,I left. Just wondered how many of you are looking and what youve found.

Why should people who have put decades into a job just walk away and not fight for their conditions? Maybe they would have chosen a different career and been happy if they had seen what was coming.

[2yearpostie]

How many of you hardcore union people looking for another job outside of royal mail? And have you found anything that offers the pay/afternoon finishs and conditions you expect?

Zzzzzz

Genuine question.
When I didnt like my previous job,I left. Just wondered how many of you are looking and what youve found.

Why should people who have put decades into a job just walk away and not fight for their conditions? Maybe they would have chosen a different career and been happy if they had seen what was coming.

Because things change.
When you start in life you live at home, then you rent a flat, then you buy a family home. Same in buisness, it started off as the public wanting letters at 7am and 5pm, then they wanted parcels, then one delivery and now they want everything as soon as its ordered.

Thats not to say that the workforce of the country cant move around to find similar or better employment.

[TopperGas]

How many of you hardcore union people looking for another job outside of royal mail? And have you found anything that offers the pay/afternoon finishs and conditions you expect?

Zzzzzz

Genuine question.
When I didnt like my previous job,I left. Just wondered how many of you are looking and what youve found.

Why should people who have put decades into a job just walk away and not fight for their conditions? Maybe they would have chosen a different career and been happy if they had seen what was coming.

Because things change.
When you start in life you live at home, then you rent a flat, then you buy a family home. Same in buisness, it started off as the public wanting letters at 7am and 5pm, then they wanted parcels, then one delivery and now they want everything as soon as its ordered.

Thats not to say that the workforce of the country cant move around to find similar or better employment.

The only reason to leave is because of the change of hours but what other job is going to allow you to finish at 3pm?

[GlassDoor]

I’d take that deal? Probably option B on the pay deal but otherwise I’m happy with that.

While 1500 sounds nice, it’s. Not pensionable. And of course who knows what will happen next year with the proposed 6%, things change and that might not happen.

Whereas option a with the 6% now would be better for pension.

I would take option A

[FilthyBloke]

I’d take that deal? Probably option B on the pay deal but otherwise I’m happy with that.

While 1500 sounds nice, it’s. Not pensionable. And of course who knows what will happen next year with the proposed 6%, things change and that might not happen.

Whereas option a with the 6% now would be better for pension.

I would take option A

I think your option is better in the long run. I guess it depends on what you want now. For me personally, the bigger lump sum would be more beneficial.
I’m still not 100% though….

[tractorboy2]

How many of you hardcore union people looking for another job outside of royal mail? And have you found anything that offers the pay/afternoon finishs and conditions you expect?

Zzzzzz

Genuine question.
When I didnt like my previous job,I left. Just wondered how many of you are looking and what youve found.

Why should people who have put decades into a job just walk away and not fight for their conditions? Maybe they would have chosen a different career and been happy if they had seen what was coming.

Because things change.
When you start in life you live at home, then you rent a flat, then you buy a family home. Same in buisness, it started off as the public wanting letters at 7am and 5pm, then they wanted parcels, then one delivery and now they want everything as soon as its ordered.

Thats not to say that the workforce of the country cant move around to find similar or better employment.

I think you will find it was the business that wanted those things not the public.

[mags999]

This is exactly what royal mail want everybody arguing as if this is the final offer you are all like lemmings off a cliff just ignore a or b they are not acceptable to the union so do one

[rambo1]

I’d take that deal? Probably option B on the pay deal but otherwise I’m happy with that.

While 1500 sounds nice, it’s. Not pensionable. And of course who knows what will happen next year with the proposed 6%, things change and that might not happen.

Whereas option a with the 6% now would be better for pension.

I would take option A

It's a 2 yr deal. Sign it and it's either 2% now and 6% next yr with £1500 now. Or 6,% now, 2% next yr with £500 now. Either of the pay deals are the same wage after 2 yrs, just option with the higher lump sum, you'll be a grand less tax better off.

[rambo1]

I’d take that deal? Probably option B on the pay deal but otherwise I’m happy with that.

While 1500 sounds nice, it’s. Not pensionable. And of course who knows what will happen next year with the proposed 6%, things change and that might not happen.

Whereas option a with the 6% now would be better for pension.

I would take option A

It's not proposed if it gets voted. It's a 2yr deal

[rambo1]

Remember if it’s dark and the driveway or lane is unlit you do not have to walk down it.

Where does it state you do not have to go down an unlit driveway or lane??

The likes of AMAZON, and supermarkets do it up to 22:00 at night. The majority of Local Authorities have now turned off street lighting hoping to save money.

Yes but they are driving to every address they deliver to and at most have a 100 to 120 drop off points not somewhere around 8 times that number all whilst having to walk 10 miles or more oh and having to account for their time should they stop to have a rest of 5 minutes or more. Oh and they actually got a 10% pay rise this past year

You do know you can have a rest of 40mins? And don't have to justify it. What's more, you get paid for it!! It's called A BREAK .

[Acca Dacca]

I’d take that deal? Probably option B on the pay deal but otherwise I’m happy with that.

While 1500 sounds nice, it’s. Not pensionable. And of course who knows what will happen next year with the proposed 6%, things change and that might not happen.

Whereas option a with the 6% now would be better for pension.

I would take option A

It's not proposed if it gets voted. It's a 2yr deal

There is nothing stopping RM pleading poverty next year or crying that the revisions etc havent saved them enough money and saying its now unaffordable

These agreements cant be enforced - the union can ballot if not honoured but that doesnt change the fact that the payrise isnt guaranteed