RMCtv : Pay and change offer - your questions answered

[Acca Dacca]

It is so so sneaky to put it as “would receive statutory sick pay” when statutory sick pay is unpaid for first three days

That is designed to deceive

[thefox]

A lot of people will get wise to the new sick pay policy, and the first time they go off sick, even if they are fine to go back to work, they will just take an extra three days because they won't get paid the next time they go off sick, so they will withdraw three days worth of labour to fix that.

That's all this will achieve.

Guy in ours said when he takes his 2nd sickie he will go off for a month i said you dont get paid for first 3 days he said wots that about 200-250 quid...totally worth it for a month off with fullnpay after 3 days

[LouBarlow]

A lot of people will get wise to the new sick pay policy, and the first time they go off sick, even if they are fine to go back to work, they will just take an extra three days because they won't get paid the next time they go off sick, so they will withdraw three days worth of labour to fix that.

That's all this will achieve.

Guy in ours said when he takes his 2nd sickie he will go off for a month i said you dont get paid for first 3 days he said wots that about 200-250 quid...totally worth it for a month off with fullnpay after 3 days

Good luck getting a doctor’s note for a fake month-long sickness.

[thefox]

It will also lead to people milking the first absence.

If anything it will increase the time people take off sick.

So as we face an attack on our terms and conditions, due in part they say to people abusing the system, your response is to go on a public forum and state that you will abuse the system even more.
Brilliant.

What you on about? Where did I say I would abuse the system?

It’s obvious that people will take more time off if they know if they have another absence they won’t get paid for it.

You didn't say it,wee angry clash just went off on one for nowt

[thefox]

A lot of people will get wise to the new sick pay policy, and the first time they go off sick, even if they are fine to go back to work, they will just take an extra three days because they won't get paid the next time they go off sick, so they will withdraw three days worth of labour to fix that.

That's all this will achieve.

Guy in ours said when he takes his 2nd sickie he will go off for a month i said you dont get paid for first 3 days he said wots that about 200-250 quid...totally worth it for a month off with fullnpay after 3 days

Good luck getting a doctor’s note for a fake month-long sickness.

Hes been getting them for years,especially easy now its telephone consultations

[FilthyBloke]

A lot of people will get wise to the new sick pay policy, and the first time they go off sick, even if they are fine to go back to work, they will just take an extra three days because they won't get paid the next time they go off sick, so they will withdraw three days worth of labour to fix that.

That's all this will achieve.

Guy in ours said when he takes his 2nd sickie he will go off for a month i said you dont get paid for first 3 days he said wots that about 200-250 quid...totally worth it for a month off with fullnpay after 3 days

Good luck getting a doctor’s note for a fake month-long sickness.

Hes been getting them for years,especially easy now its telephone consultations

You mean you work with people who have been abusing the same terms and conditions that they are now fighting to protect!?

Let’s hope the company catches him out and gets rid of him.

[thefox]

Hes nearly 30 years in has been doing it for decades

[clashcityrocker]

If I am sick for 2 days I take 2 days off.
If I am sick for 9 days I take 9 days off.
It doesn't even occur to me to take more days than necessary.
I would never waste a doctor's time with requests for fake sick certificates.
I don't understand some people.

[thefox]

He went off sick one time and came back 2 weeks later with a suntanviva espana he kept singing

[Acca Dacca]

If I am sick for 2 days I take 2 days off.
If I am sick for 9 days I take 9 days off.
It doesn't even occur to me to take more days than necessary.
I would never waste a doctor's time with requests for fake sick certificates.
I don't understand some people.

The problem is Royal Mail's really quite stupid attendance procedure that counts 1 day absence the same as 1 week absence

You could be off for 1 day, go back to work for two days, realise you arent as well as you thought youd be, go off for another two days and those three days off would count as two absences

If you took the entire week off it'd count as 1 absence

[postslippete]

A sh*t offer will always be a sh*t offer


No back pay which most pay deals tend to have

Changes in sick pay towards SSP even though we are delivering longer rounds

Finish times approx 4.30 to ensure that everyone's outdoor duty is maximised


No deal

[postslippete]

And the attitude that Zareena has about new staff that they have recruited on less pay, terms and conditions since November last year absolutely stinks.

This is a woman that cannot give us a pay rise now, yet can impose 2% on us last year which forced the union to re-ballot and she has also taken annual leave days from us.

Is she in charge of Angard recruitment as well? Is she taking two salaries? Never trust these corporate greedy types.

[sindba]

If I am sick for 2 days I take 2 days off.
If I am sick for 9 days I take 9 days off.
It doesn't even occur to me to take more days than necessary.
I would never waste a doctor's time with requests for fake sick certificates.
I don't understand some people.

Me too.

I do sometimes take an extra day or two to make sure I feel 100% tho, because if you go back before you're fully ready and have to go off again with the same thing, it counts as 2 absences. Been caught out with that before, never again.

[TopperGas]

It'll be interesting to see if the new policy is brought in whether it does reduce sickness absence, or just motivates people to have now a full week off in future rather than take just 1 or 2 days off with a cold or sickness bug etc.

I just hope nobody gets COVID and decides that they don't want to lose up to 3 days pay so carries on working and then passes on to other posties in the DO.

I can't think of any reputable businesses i.e. not Amazon/DPD etc who've introduced a zero sick pay policy post the pandemic.

[k979aaa]

Said it years ago pensions first sick pay and redundancy no wonder the French are up in arms about it they know by our own cost!