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jbo5066
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Re: 10,000 jobs To go by august

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yubin282 wrote:
14 Oct 2022, 14:56
I hope it's those lazy, useless non-drivers. :pray :wave
It won't be! Does no one understand discrimination??Already been successful grievances in other work sectors regarding not being able to/won't drive... You don't need a driving license to deliver letters!! If mon-fri letters come in, which it will, non-drivers will be doing letters - the whole Sunday thing is for parcels...
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jbo5066 wrote:
17 Oct 2022, 05:08
yubin282 wrote:
14 Oct 2022, 14:56
I hope it's those lazy, useless non-drivers. :pray :wave
It won't be! Does no one understand discrimination??Already been successful grievances in other work sectors regarding not being able to/won't drive... You don't need a driving license to deliver letters!! If mon-fri letters come in, which it will, non-drivers will be doing letters - the whole Sunday thing is for parcels...
The non-drivers will be working longer hours but 1 less day per week (their full time hours will be split over 5 days instead of 6)
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And their rounds will get a lot bigger!
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Re: 10,000 jobs To go by august

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SpacePhoenix wrote:
17 Oct 2022, 05:14
jbo5066 wrote:
17 Oct 2022, 05:08
yubin282 wrote:
14 Oct 2022, 14:56
I hope it's those lazy, useless non-drivers. :pray :wave
It won't be! Does no one understand discrimination??Already been successful grievances in other work sectors regarding not being able to/won't drive... You don't need a driving license to deliver letters!! If mon-fri letters come in, which it will, non-drivers will be doing letters - the whole Sunday thing is for parcels...
The non-drivers will be working longer hours but 1 less day per week (their full time hours will be split over 5 days instead of 6)
It's a long time since we had a standard 6 day attendance on deliveries.
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Re: 10,000 jobs To go by august

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SpacePhoenix wrote:
17 Oct 2022, 05:14
jbo5066 wrote:
17 Oct 2022, 05:08
yubin282 wrote:
14 Oct 2022, 14:56
I hope it's those lazy, useless non-drivers. :pray :wave
It won't be! Does no one understand discrimination??Already been successful grievances in other work sectors regarding not being able to/won't drive... You don't need a driving license to deliver letters!! If mon-fri letters come in, which it will, non-drivers will be doing letters - the whole Sunday thing is for parcels...
The non-drivers will be working longer hours but 1 less day per week (their full time hours will be split over 5 days instead of 6)
Eh?
Everybody ( apart from those few who did wallington weeks )only works 5 days as standard anyway

6 if you work your day off
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
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Re: 10,000 jobs To go by august

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Come on RM and CWU about time we get new offers in for pay etc.
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Re: 10,000 jobs To go by august

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Acca Dacca wrote:
17 Oct 2022, 11:41
SpacePhoenix wrote:
17 Oct 2022, 05:14
jbo5066 wrote:
17 Oct 2022, 05:08
yubin282 wrote:
14 Oct 2022, 14:56
I hope it's those lazy, useless non-drivers. :pray :wave
It won't be! Does no one understand discrimination??Already been successful grievances in other work sectors regarding not being able to/won't drive... You don't need a driving license to deliver letters!! If mon-fri letters come in, which it will, non-drivers will be doing letters - the whole Sunday thing is for parcels...
The non-drivers will be working longer hours but 1 less day per week (their full time hours will be split over 5 days instead of 6)
Eh?
Everybody ( apart from those few who did wallington weeks )only works 5 days as standard anyway

6 if you work your day off
A lot will come down to what sort of reduction RM manage to get for letters, we don't know how many days a week it'll be or if they've eve be consecutive days
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Re: 10,000 jobs To go by august

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That’s not what you said though - you said we would be working 5 days rather than 6 when we already work 5
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
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He said it will be a 5 day service, as opposed to the current 6 day letter service, then in time, 3 days, but that's for the next generation...
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Re: 10,000 jobs To go by august

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jbo5066 wrote:
17 Oct 2022, 15:12
He said it will be a 5 day service, as opposed to the current 6 day letter service, then in time, 3 days, but that's for the next generation...
No he never

He said we would be working 5 days rather than 6 so would need to do more hours in the 5 days which is wrong because we already work 5 days of a 6 day service with a floater covering the other days delivery

5 days of a 5 days service would be the same hours worked per week
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
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Ofcom has already as good as given him the green light for a 5 day letter service as opposed to the current 6, and as during the COVID pandemic, it will probably be the Saturday that is dropped ...
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Re: 10,000 jobs To go by august

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If it goes to a 5 day letter service Mon- Fri you won't need a floater.
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Re: 10,000 jobs To go by august

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jbo5066 wrote:
17 Oct 2022, 16:02
If it goes to a 5 day letter service Mon- Fri you won't need a floater.
Yes that’s my point ( I’m not saying this is a good thing btw )

But it wouldn’t mean that more hours would need to be worked daily because doing 5 days instead of 6

SP seems to think we are contracted to work 6 days as it is now

If we were and it then moved to 5 days then yes we would need to work more hours in the 5 days but that’s not the case
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
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Royal Mail could save £225m by cutting Saturday post, regulator says
27 November 2020
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55087539

This was being talked about 2 years ago, it's no surprise it will come to fruition now the company is losing money.
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Re: 10,000 jobs To go by august

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Acca Dacca wrote:
17 Oct 2022, 15:35
jbo5066 wrote:
17 Oct 2022, 15:12
He said it will be a 5 day service, as opposed to the current 6 day letter service, then in time, 3 days, but that's for the next generation...
No he never

He said we would be working 5 days rather than 6 so would need to do more hours in the 5 days which is wrong because we already work 5 days of a 6 day service with a floater covering the other days delivery

5 days of a 5 days service would be the same hours worked per week
Crossed wires :crazy: THOMPSON said letters will be a 5 day service instead of 6, then eventually 3 - don't remember Thompson saying anything about working longer, BUT, our managers are hinting walks will be bigger due to letters decline and parcels above shoebox size going to the vans ...