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Later starts & Sunday working for everyone

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A2B
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Re: Later starts & Sunday working for everyone

Post by A2B »

norris9 wrote:
24 Jun 2022, 14:40
I don't think the later start and finish will happen. I don't think they've thought it through at all.

1. One of the perks of being a Postie is you don't start too early and you get to finish at ~2pm. That perk will be gone, which could put a lot of people off being a Postie.

2. You can't work in the dark as not all streets are lit, not all garden paths are lit, very few houses have numbers showing up in the dark. It's hard enough to navigate a round you haven't done before in the daylight. Even if we did it - we'd be slower than if we worked in the daylight and more accidents would happen.

3. You will have to work during School rush hour and evening rush hour. We will lose so much more time being stuck in traffic. I could imagine in some congested areas you might take 3 times as long to get back to your depot than you do finishing at ~2pm.
Of all the things being spoken about at the moment i think later starts is the one thing which will happen
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Re: Later starts & Sunday working for everyone

Post by postiewhite »

Surely from a business sense the union will have to back down to later starts and sunday working but will settle for a better rise (6-8%)?
I hate to say it but the competition work 7 days a week and all they will need is the approval from the Union as a starting gun to kickstart what they want to do moving forward and although some strings will be scrapped ive a feeling the sunday working and change of contract will come into force. LAT's are growing 10 fold and they will probably be more competitive once they have the workers by the balls.
Unfortunately we are a number and we are replaceable. A valued worker who is irreplaceable is someone that is maybe highly trained on a machine or someone that has spent years learning a profession, these people are hard to replace but a postie is not hard to replace and they will know this. We are the old workforce who doesn't like change but the new starters won't know any difference.

Some people won't have an issue with late starts and sundays but a lot may look elsewhere jobwise unless a proper working schedule can be agreed (either 1 in 4 sundays or work a sunday and have a saturday off) for example
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Re: Later starts & Sunday working for everyone

Post by clashcityrocker »

It makes no sense to offer a Sunday service and not have the resources to deliver it.
The CWU has constantly made a big thing of expanding the business, offering innovative services etc etc.
And here we are.

And to start complaining now about a two tier workforce is laughable.
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Re: Later starts & Sunday working for everyone

Post by fb1969 »

I don't really get Terry's attitude to the two tier workforce when he was cartwheeling around last year with the apprenticeship scheme which he saw as the return of the "postal cadet". Look at the apprentice jobs being advertised and there is little difference to a standard postie job, other than lower pay.
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Re: Later starts & Sunday working for everyone

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Horse, door, stable, bolted. Rearrange as you see fit.
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