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LTB 284/23 -Delivery Office Revisions/Floor Plan Changes and Sorting Frame Moves and Adjustments in Breach of 'Mandatory' SAC1, SWI, TBRA etc., and 'Mandatory' ASR Engagement and Consultation
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LTB 284/23 -Delivery Office Revisions/Floor Plan Changes and Sorting Frame Moves and Adjustments in Breach of 'Mandatory' SAC1, SWI, TBRA etc., and 'Mandatory' ASR Engagement and Consultation
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LTB 284/23 – Delivery Office Revisions/Floor Plan Changes and Sorting Frame Moves and Adjustments in Breach of ‘Mandatory’ SAC1, SWI, TBRA etc., and ‘Mandatory’ ASR Engagement and Consultation
No. 284/2023
9 November 2023
Our Ref: C1/23
To: All Branches
Dear Colleagues,
Delivery Office Revisions/Floor Plan Changes and Sorting Frame Moves and Adjustments in Breach of ‘Mandatory’ SAC1, SWI, TBRA etc., and ‘Mandatory’ ASR Engagement and Consultation:
The Health, Safety and Environment Department continues to receive a large and continual number of health and safety complaints and health and safety dispute/escalations from Branch Area Health and Safety Representatives involving Delivery Offices where Revisions, Floor Plan Changes and Sorting Frame Moves and Adjustments are being undertaken in breach of the ‘Mandatory’ Safety Concurrence (SAC1), Safe Working Instructions (SWI), Task Based Risk Assessment (TBRA) etc., plus the ‘Mandatory’ requirement to undertake ASR engagement and consultation as set out in RMG SHE Instructions, National Agreements and of course the law (SRSC Regulations 1977).
This matter has been raised with Elizabeth Lloyd Royal Mail Group Director Health and Safety, Sue Cuddihey Royal Mail Group Head of Safety for Programmes plus all newly appointed Field Operations Directors and Regional Operations Directors, requesting that all Unit Managers, PiCs, COMs, OPLs and Planners be reminded of the rules and correct approach to safety compliance when planning, initiating and undertaking changes with CWU ASR consultation being the first action.
In every one of these cases of complaint the consistent theme involves Unit Managers and Planners breaking the rules and blatantly breaching ‘Mandatory’ Safety and Operational Instructions, National Agreements and Health and Safety Regulations, all of which Managers and Planners should be more than familiar with. The first versions of the ‘Mandatory’ SAC1, SWI and TBRA were put in place two and a half years ago with later updated versions issued around a year ago.
Every Office Revision has a ‘pre-populated’ action plan embedded, which reinforces key CWU ASR engagement points to ensure consultation takes place in good time. Some actions are not necessarily applicable to all Office Revisions but should be discussed and discounted.
There is no reason or excuse that Managers can therefore legitimately offer for not being aware of these important safety instructions and we have requested an investigation and explanation as to why such blatant and obvious breaches of safety and other mandatory Royal Mail Instructions are occurring.
The law is crystal clear that when changes of this nature take place the ASR (Accredited and Credentialed) Area Safety Rep, must be consulted in good time as reiterated by the RMG SHE Standards and RMG Safety Policy signed by the CEO.
It's a Dave Joyce special-see the link for EVERYTHING.
LTB 284/23 – Delivery Office Revisions/Floor Plan Changes and Sorting Frame Moves and Adjustments in Breach of ‘Mandatory’ SAC1, SWI, TBRA etc., and ‘Mandatory’ ASR Engagement and Consultation
No. 284/2023
9 November 2023
Our Ref: C1/23
To: All Branches
Dear Colleagues,
Delivery Office Revisions/Floor Plan Changes and Sorting Frame Moves and Adjustments in Breach of ‘Mandatory’ SAC1, SWI, TBRA etc., and ‘Mandatory’ ASR Engagement and Consultation:
The Health, Safety and Environment Department continues to receive a large and continual number of health and safety complaints and health and safety dispute/escalations from Branch Area Health and Safety Representatives involving Delivery Offices where Revisions, Floor Plan Changes and Sorting Frame Moves and Adjustments are being undertaken in breach of the ‘Mandatory’ Safety Concurrence (SAC1), Safe Working Instructions (SWI), Task Based Risk Assessment (TBRA) etc., plus the ‘Mandatory’ requirement to undertake ASR engagement and consultation as set out in RMG SHE Instructions, National Agreements and of course the law (SRSC Regulations 1977).
This matter has been raised with Elizabeth Lloyd Royal Mail Group Director Health and Safety, Sue Cuddihey Royal Mail Group Head of Safety for Programmes plus all newly appointed Field Operations Directors and Regional Operations Directors, requesting that all Unit Managers, PiCs, COMs, OPLs and Planners be reminded of the rules and correct approach to safety compliance when planning, initiating and undertaking changes with CWU ASR consultation being the first action.
In every one of these cases of complaint the consistent theme involves Unit Managers and Planners breaking the rules and blatantly breaching ‘Mandatory’ Safety and Operational Instructions, National Agreements and Health and Safety Regulations, all of which Managers and Planners should be more than familiar with. The first versions of the ‘Mandatory’ SAC1, SWI and TBRA were put in place two and a half years ago with later updated versions issued around a year ago.
Every Office Revision has a ‘pre-populated’ action plan embedded, which reinforces key CWU ASR engagement points to ensure consultation takes place in good time. Some actions are not necessarily applicable to all Office Revisions but should be discussed and discounted.
There is no reason or excuse that Managers can therefore legitimately offer for not being aware of these important safety instructions and we have requested an investigation and explanation as to why such blatant and obvious breaches of safety and other mandatory Royal Mail Instructions are occurring.
The law is crystal clear that when changes of this nature take place the ASR (Accredited and Credentialed) Area Safety Rep, must be consulted in good time as reiterated by the RMG SHE Standards and RMG Safety Policy signed by the CEO.
It's a Dave Joyce special-see the link for EVERYTHING.
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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Re: LTB 284/23 -Delivery Office Revisions/Floor Plan Changes and Sorting Frame Moves and Adjustments in Breach of 'Mandatory' SAC1, SWI, TBRA etc., and 'Mandatory' ASR Engagement and Consultation
Sort out the real problems in offices for crying out loud.


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Re: LTB 284/23 -Delivery Office Revisions/Floor Plan Changes and Sorting Frame Moves and Adjustments in Breach of 'Mandatory' SAC1, SWI, TBRA etc., and 'Mandatory' ASR Engagement and Consultation
All this was pointed out to union and management months ago.
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Re: LTB 284/23 -Delivery Office Revisions/Floor Plan Changes and Sorting Frame Moves and Adjustments in Breach of 'Mandatory' SAC1, SWI, TBRA etc., and 'Mandatory' ASR Engagement and Consultation
Surely health an safety is more important than getting the mail out.
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Re: LTB 284/23 -Delivery Office Revisions/Floor Plan Changes and Sorting Frame Moves and Adjustments in Breach of 'Mandatory' SAC1, SWI, TBRA etc., and 'Mandatory' ASR Engagement and Consultation
Management bullying & harassment is what I’m talking about,clever clogs
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Re: LTB 284/23 -Delivery Office Revisions/Floor Plan Changes and Sorting Frame Moves and Adjustments in Breach of 'Mandatory' SAC1, SWI, TBRA etc., and 'Mandatory' ASR Engagement and Consultation
So what are You doing about it? A strongly worded letter?
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Re: LTB 284/23 -Delivery Office Revisions/Floor Plan Changes and Sorting Frame Moves and Adjustments in Breach of 'Mandatory' SAC1, SWI, TBRA etc., and 'Mandatory' ASR Engagement and Consultation
Exactly!!…Royal Mail just throwing these letters in bin and cracking on
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Re: LTB 284/23 -Delivery Office Revisions/Floor Plan Changes and Sorting Frame Moves and Adjustments in Breach of 'Mandatory' SAC1, SWI, TBRA etc., and 'Mandatory' ASR Engagement and Consultation
Try telling your manager pals in the Mail Centres that pal.
They just dump as much work onto the Delivery Offices as they can, every single day.
Especially when they get all those extra bodies in for the pressure, but Delivery gets SFA.
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Re: LTB 284/23 -Delivery Office Revisions/Floor Plan Changes and Sorting Frame Moves and Adjustments in Breach of 'Mandatory' SAC1, SWI, TBRA etc., and 'Mandatory' ASR Engagement and Consultation
How much in subs does a postie pay each month to keep the union spouting this rubbish? So glad not to be a member!
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Re: LTB 284/23 -Delivery Office Revisions/Floor Plan Changes and Sorting Frame Moves and Adjustments in Breach of 'Mandatory' SAC1, SWI, TBRA etc., and 'Mandatory' ASR Engagement and Consultation
And which piece of legislation is crystal clear about this? I have trawled through the statute books and can find no reference to it being a legislative requirement for the ASR to be consulted prior to a frame being moved six inches to the left.The law is crystal clear that when changes of this nature take place the ASR (Accredited and Credentialed) Area Safety Rep, must be consulted in good time as reiterated by the RMG SHE Standards and RMG Safety Policy signed by the CEO.
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Re: LTB 284/23 -Delivery Office Revisions/Floor Plan Changes and Sorting Frame Moves and Adjustments in Breach of 'Mandatory' SAC1, SWI, TBRA etc., and 'Mandatory' ASR Engagement and Consultation
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Re: LTB 284/23 -Delivery Office Revisions/Floor Plan Changes and Sorting Frame Moves and Adjustments in Breach of 'Mandatory' SAC1, SWI, TBRA etc., and 'Mandatory' ASR Engagement and Consultation
In an ideal world you want to keep delivery staff fit for delivery, hence health and safety should be a priority. Alas we currently have yorks with plastic sharp enough to sever major arteries, so clearly H&S has taken a back seat.