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LTB:National Dispute Official Update

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chrisj
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Re: LTB:National Dispute Official Update

Post by chrisj »

Not trying to be melodramatic here but there are a few posties on delivery hitting the bottle (even more than usual) :oops: and some are struggling with their relationships. Is there a correlation or has it always been an issue?
halfull
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Re: LTB:National Dispute Official Update

Post by halfull »

chrisj wrote:Not trying to be melodramatic here but there are a few posties on delivery hitting the bottle (even more than usual) :oops: and some are struggling with their relationships. Is there a correlation or has it always been an issue?
i can believe it,many in my office are on the brink. We have had many off with stress & this year one broke down in tears infront of us all & had months off sick with stress. All due to workload & being pressured into doing it with the constant threat of performance & swinging the led! Its just crazy in delivery now!
dvbuk55
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Post by dvbuk55 »

steve1873 wrote:Will i be 1 of the winners or losers in this upcoming deal? :/
Actually steve there's been no winners or losers mentioned........................yet, but if you're in deliveries prepare for the worst. dingo more or less said that they wouldn't want to forego all the concessions for the sake of failing to reach agreement on deliveries............sooooooo what chance an "interim agreement" on everything except deliveries which will be ongoing with studies, working parties, CWU involvement, maintaining full time employment in the main(which is moving down to the 60/40 mark nationally and how is that going to be policed?), fair and manageable work loads which was part and parcel of BT2010
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k979aaa
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Re: LTB:National Dispute Official Update

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cloherty1976 wrote:
k979aaa wrote:If anyone in the CWU H/Q or those who know them! Nothing will change till the bonus culture of management is ended once and for all not just in delivery but processing and distribution with the gangster style management comes the problems till this is solved nothing will ever change. WE DONT NEED JUST AN AGREEMENT BUT A CULTURE CHANGE THAT SOME MANAGERS JUST COULD NOT LIVE WITH OR WITHOUT BONUSES!
Not going to happen in my lifetime
Then get yourself a shove kid and start digging!
drb
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Re: LTB:National Dispute Official Update

Post by drb »

I think all the issues stem from Deliveries. To sort that out takes time. It obviously is a problem.Some of the stories I hear,(check the above threads),make me want to cry. Having represented deliveries over 15 years I can see the change. The bullying,not to mention the changes to our members. Do the business and it's henchman recognise this? No.

The problem lies with the individuals "not in the room". It will take time. But time is what we have and a ballot too. More so we are now dealing with a private company.
mandelsons_toenail
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Re: LTB:National Dispute Official Update

Post by mandelsons_toenail »

Will this deal sort deliveries?

No.

Today was hellish, my Dom was almost punched by myself, the jobs are impossible and any hint of a cut off, you are treat like a lepper and a piss taker.

These doms and sexist linos all need sacking.

Man the gates
cloherty1976
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Re: LTB:National Dispute Official Update

Post by cloherty1976 »

k979aaa wrote:
cloherty1976 wrote:
k979aaa wrote:If anyone in the CWU H/Q or those who know them! Nothing will change till the bonus culture of management is ended once and for all not just in delivery but processing and distribution with the gangster style management comes the problems till this is solved nothing will ever change. WE DONT NEED JUST AN AGREEMENT BUT A CULTURE CHANGE THAT SOME MANAGERS JUST COULD NOT LIVE WITH OR WITHOUT BONUSES!
Not going to happen in my lifetime
Then get yourself a shove kid and start digging!
Not a kid anymore
k979aaa
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Re: LTB:National Dispute Official Update

Post by k979aaa »

cloherty1976 wrote:
k979aaa wrote:
cloherty1976 wrote:
k979aaa wrote:If anyone in the CWU H/Q or those who know them! Nothing will change till the bonus culture of management is ended once and for all not just in delivery but processing and distribution with the gangster style management comes the problems till this is solved nothing will ever change. WE DONT NEED JUST AN AGREEMENT BUT A CULTURE CHANGE THAT SOME MANAGERS JUST COULD NOT LIVE WITH OR WITHOUT BONUSES!
Not going to happen in my lifetime
Then get yourself a shove kid and start digging!
Not a kid anymore
Well dig faster this is performance management at it's best soon coming to your mail centre.
wandle
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Re: LTB:National Dispute Official Update

Post by wandle »

mandelsons_toenail wrote:
These doms and sexist linos all need sacking.

Man the gates
PERSON the gates, surely? you sexist pig :whistle
Postaltony
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Re: LTB:National Dispute Official Update

Post by Postaltony »

Now we are so close to Christmas, I would find it very difficult to justify a strike to my family.
Its one thing struggling to pay the bills, but when it comes to the kids potentially missing out on presents.
That's another whole kettle of fish. They would not understand why there are no presents under the tree.
And its unfair to ask them to either.

I want to see smiles on my kids faces not tears.

So about time CWU came up with the goods, or they can pack up and piss off.
cloherty1976
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Re: LTB:National Dispute Official Update

Post by cloherty1976 »

chrisj wrote:Not trying to be melodramatic here but there are a few posties on delivery hitting the bottle (even more than usual) :oops: and some are struggling with their relationships. Is there a correlation or has it always been an issue?
I remember the days when most spent most of the days in the pub and especially the good old days on the stations. Also the wives used to wait outside the office to collect the wages off there partners before they could spend it. Days you were paid in cash..personally I think the drinking culture has gone down as a lot of offices are on industrial estates away from pubs
Lincox
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Re: LTB:National Dispute Official Update

Post by Lincox »

Postaltony, you may be able to afford christmas for your kids this year by not striking, but if this agreement is lost because thousands give up the call to arms, next year you may be wishing that you had made the sacrifice.
drb
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Re: LTB:National Dispute Official Update

Post by drb »

Postaltony, you may be able to afford christmas for your kids this year by not striking, but if this agreement is lost because thousands give up the call to arms, next year you may be wishing that you had made the sacrifice.

Well Said! :Applause :Applause :Applause
cloherty1976
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Re: LTB:National Dispute Official Update

Post by cloherty1976 »

Lincox wrote:Postaltony, you may be able to afford christmas for your kids this year by not striking, but if this agreement is lost because thousands give up the call to arms, next year you may be wishing that you had made the sacrifice.
Lincox I don't think there are any strikes and it was all talk from the beginning
Pat Ostman
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Re: LTB:National Dispute Official Update

Post by Pat Ostman »

Lincox wrote:Postaltony, you may be able to afford christmas for your kids this year by not striking, but if this agreement is lost because thousands give up the call to arms, next year you may be wishing that you had made the sacrifice.
What I was about to say. Like it or not and yes I have kids, them not having what they want (present wise) are first world problems in a much bigger picture.
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