Should I be relatively safe from catching the Omicron or Delta variants while on my 16 hour weekend job?

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I began my 2x 8 hour shift Christmas weekend job (16 hours total) yesterday at my local sorting office, and despite wearing a mask am a little concerned about the potential of catching the Omicron variant of Covid-19. I received my first dose (if my memory is correct; I could find the date in my vaccine document) of the Pfizer vaccine on the 29th June and my second on the 28th August, but I've heard that two doses of a Covid vaccine provides relatively low protection against catching the Omicron variant. There was virtually no social distancing in my sorting office yesterday or today, and one or two of the other young Christmas employees periodically removed their mask when in close proximity to me. Luckily, if I were to catch the Omicron variant (or Delta variant, which is currently the most common), two doses of the vaccine should prevent a young person like me from getting seriously ill. I'm more concerned about the potential of giving it to my parents who are in their mid 50s, despite the fact that both of them are triple vaccinated (2x AstraZeneca + 1x Pfizer). I could vaugley hear a boss over the weak announcement system at my sorting office earlier saying that employees "really need to get vaccinated" if they haven't already had the jab, and I suspect they may have received some kind of evidence that a minority of employees haven't yet been jabbed, even though employees aren't required to provide proof of vaccination (companies requiring evidence of having recieved a vaccine is currently very rare in the UK unlike in some other countries).

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No resign immediately, the last two years where I’ve been working mixing with hundreds of different ppl everyday has been hell on earth, how I’m still alive is a miracle

[POSTMAN]

It is impossible to say how ill you or anyone else who is double vaccinated would be, you can now get a booster jab which will help.
Royal Mail do not require you to get a jab so any manager who says differently is wrong.
Possibly the manager is just pointing out it's better to get jabbed.
There is also no law/advice for social distancing at the moment.

[iHateD2Ds]

You’ve witness first hand RM Covid working practices which has created you some anxiety.
Unfortunately,Nobody can guarantee what is safe as everybody’s immune system reacts differently to Covid.
Statistics show the younger you are the less likely of disease severity.
Your parents are vaccinated and boosted, besides isolating that’s the most they can do to protect them selves ,wether that is enough who knows?

Taking a lateral flow test each morning may help you prevent transmission (should you become infected)but other than
packing the job in there is certainly no solution.

[vinny79]

. I could vaugley hear a boss over the weak announcement system at my sorting office earlier saying that employees "really need to get vaccinated" if they haven't already had the jab, and I suspect they may have received some kind of evidence that a minority of employees haven't yet been jabbed, even though employees aren't required to provide proof of vaccination (companies requiring evidence of having recieved a vaccine is currently very rare in the UK unlike in some other countries).

This is a wind up right?
New account created yesterday and this is your first post.

It’s nobodies business who has or hasn’t had any medical procedure. Never will be

Management, staff, the cleaner, your customers.

What evidence, what is “some kind of evidence?”

Laughable

I think there are far more without the poke in the arm than you think, Especially since this evening when Javid has stated that if you haven’t had the booster you soon won’t be considered “fully vaccinated”

There will be many many people feeling conned once they realise.



This is either a bad fishing exercise or a misguided first few posts

[Sir Henry]

Or someone is very worried about the non existent preventative measures in RM delivery offices.

[vinny79]

Seem ok to me

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. I could vaugley hear a boss over the weak announcement system at my sorting office earlier saying that employees "really need to get vaccinated" if they haven't already had the jab, and I suspect they may have received some kind of evidence that a minority of employees haven't yet been jabbed, even though employees aren't required to provide proof of vaccination (companies requiring evidence of having recieved a vaccine is currently very rare in the UK unlike in some other countries).

This is a wind up right?
New account created yesterday and this is your first post.

It’s nobodies business who has or hasn’t had any medical procedure. Never will be

Management, staff, the cleaner, your customers.

What evidence, what is “some kind of evidence?”

Laughable

I think there are far more without the poke in the arm than you think, Especially since this evening when Javid has stated that if you haven’t had the booster you soon won’t be considered “fully vaccinated”

There will be many many people feeling conned once they realise.



This is either a bad fishing exercise or a misguided first few posts

Yeah exactly what I thought, hence the sarcastic reply

[rgb2k21]

. I could vaugley hear a boss over the weak announcement system at my sorting office earlier saying that employees "really need to get vaccinated" if they haven't already had the jab, and I suspect they may have received some kind of evidence that a minority of employees haven't yet been jabbed, even though employees aren't required to provide proof of vaccination (companies requiring evidence of having recieved a vaccine is currently very rare in the UK unlike in some other countries).

This is a wind up right?
New account created yesterday and this is your first post.

It’s nobodies business who has or hasn’t had any medical procedure. Never will be

Management, staff, the cleaner, your customers.

What evidence, what is “some kind of evidence?”

Laughable

I think there are far more without the poke in the arm than you think, Especially since this evening when Javid has stated that if you haven’t had the booster you soon won’t be considered “fully vaccinated”

There will be many many people feeling conned once they realise.



This is either a bad fishing exercise or a misguided first few posts

No, it is not a windup . I created my account here following two days of work because I wanted to ask some questions about working there, this being one of them. The UK PM gave a statement on Sunday, just after I got back from my second weekend shift, saying that I would be able to book a booster appointment "from tomorrow", but I tried on Monday and was told that I wouldn't be able to until Wednesday morning .

My dad (who is in his mid-50s) suggested that I get my booster on Christmas Day since it's likely that demand will be low. I fully agree with him apart from the fact that I still wish to drink in the evening on the same day. Do you think I should go with Christmas Day when I'm able to book or not?

[TrueBlueTerrier]

This is a wind up right?
New account created yesterday and this is your first post.

It’s nobodies business who has or hasn’t had any medical procedure. Never will be

Management, staff, the cleaner, your customers.

What evidence, what is “some kind of evidence?”

Laughable

I think there are far more without the poke in the arm than you think, Especially since this evening when Javid has stated that if you haven’t had the booster you soon won’t be considered “fully vaccinated”

There will be many many people feeling conned once they realise.



This is either a bad fishing exercise or a misguided first few posts

You keep posting this but you never provide links or evidence to back up your assertions. Do you have any of this or is it just your understanding of the law, because I have posted links and articles that appear to disagree with your position?

[TrueBlueTerrier]

https://www.lewissilkin.com/en/insights ... -employers

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https://www.lewissilkin.com/en/insights ... -employers

Yeah interesting reading, bribe, coerce , people into taking an injection that doesn’t stop you passing on the virus, what about taking a test everyday to definitely prove you haven’t got it, that would make more sense

[iHateD2Ds]

https://www.lewissilkin.com/en/insights ... -employers

Yeah interesting reading, bribe, coerce , people into taking an injection that doesn’t stop you passing on the virus, what about taking a test everyday to definitely prove you haven’t got it, that would make more sense

It would make more sense, I believe people should have a choice to be vaccinated and not be penalised .
But, there is a flaw in Lateral Flow Testing when done at home, it relies heavily on peoples honesty and unfortunately some people just don’t give a xxxx.

[vinny79]

This is a wind up right?
New account created yesterday and this is your first post.

It’s nobodies business who has or hasn’t had any medical procedure. Never will be

Management, staff, the cleaner, your customers.

What evidence, what is “some kind of evidence?”

Laughable

I think there are far more without the poke in the arm than you think, Especially since this evening when Javid has stated that if you haven’t had the booster you soon won’t be considered “fully vaccinated”

There will be many many people feeling conned once they realise.



This is either a bad fishing exercise or a misguided first few posts

You keep posting this but you never provide links or evidence to back up your assertions. Do you have any of this or is it just your understanding of the law, because I have posted links and articles that appear to disagree with your position?

You’re joking right!?

Firstly I believe under the 1988 access to medical records act section 3, under common law you have a right to refuse. You also have the right to redact confidential information.

No employer has liability insurance to mandate vaccines, further to that no insurer can indemnify trespass to the person for assault and battery. My understanding is that an employer would not have insurance for legal defence against this and would fold at pre-action. Let’s see eh.

Would be a very brave large company to try in the U.K. that’s for sure.

[TrueBlueTerrier]

3
Consent to applications for medical reports for employment or insurance purposes.
(1)A person shall not apply to a medical practitioner for a medical report relating to any individual to be supplied to him for employment or insurance purposes unless—
(a)that person (“the applicant”) has notified the individual that he proposes to make the application; and
(b)the individual has notified the applicant that he consents to the making of the application.
(2)Any notification given under subsection (1)(a) above must inform the individual of his right to withhold his consent to the making of the application, and of the following rights under this Act, namely—
(a)the rights arising under sections 4(1) to (3) and 6(2) below with respect to access to the report before or after it is supplied,
(b)the right to withhold consent under subsection (1) of section 5 below, and
(c)the right to request the amendment of the report under subsection (2) of that section,as well as of the effect of section 7 below.

No that's nothing to do mandating vaccines or wearing masks, that's consent to medical records which Royal Mail already are aware of which is why they have to ask you directly for medical information when dealing with a sickness absence of the Equality Act. This may apply if RM asks you to prove your vaccine status, which you are right you can refuse consent. But it doesn't stop RM from taking further action if they think they can get away with it.

As I keep saying the law has not been tested yet, and people who know the Law better than me say that in theory you can be dismissed https://www.rosenblatt-law.co.uk/media/ ... %20conduct.

I am not saying it's fair or even reasonable, I would fight it to the bitter end. But it's dangerous to say that Royal Mail can't do it as quite clearly they can according to the link above. The danger isn't to you, or me, it's to someone who doesn't research the possible issues fully.

It is potentially fair to dismiss an employee for a reason related to their conduct. This could include disobeying reasonable orders or management instructions in relation to COVID related health and safety compliance.

It's your choice if you don't want the vaccine, and it's your choice to not wear a mask. I as an individual can't nor want to force you to comply. But anyone making such decisions should know the possible implications of taking that decision.

No employer has liability insurance to mandate vaccines, further to that no insurer can indemnify trespass to the person for assault and battery. My understanding is that an employer would not have insurance for legal defence against this and would fold at pre-action.

Correct employers can't mandate vaccines (unless they are the Government) and they can't indemnify trespass for assault or battery, in other words, they can't force you to take the vaccine, but they don't need to. But according to the links I have posted, and the way I read them, they can explain the consequences of your refusal to you and then leave that decision to you. It's nasty and not something I agree with, but nevertheless, that's what the lawyers say they can do.