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Delivery Option Update - AKA Saturday no letters

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wacko74
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Post by wacko74 »

SpacePhoenix wrote:
smileski wrote:So there appears to be no guidance on how managers decide which 50 per cent become fixed Saturday off?

This is going to be brutal!
Why do I get the feeling that RM might look into introducing limited deliveries on Sundays (Tracked and SDs for a premium)

Hopefully they will.

The way forward for the business is letters over 5 days (or possibly less) a week and pkts over 7 days.
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Post by LaggyBand »

A2B wrote:
smileski wrote:So there appears to be no guidance on how managers decide which 50 per cent become fixed Saturday off?

This is going to be brutal!
Sure is, i've very little faith any of it will be productive for RM in the short term .
It’s covered in the PowerPoint guidance, is it not?
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Post by A2B »

LaggyBand wrote:
A2B wrote:
smileski wrote:So there appears to be no guidance on how managers decide which 50 per cent become fixed Saturday off?

This is going to be brutal!
Sure is, i've very little faith any of it will be productive for RM in the short term .
It’s covered in the PowerPoint guidance, is it not?
But that's not a workable solution for every office, it's one size fits all
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Post by goneaway »

TrueBlueTerrier wrote:picked from Facebook and other sources
Delivery Operation Update v4.pptx
CWU has NOT agreed to this and has NOT been consulted.They WILL be reacting nationally, regionally and locally, very soon.
I've found something really telling looking at the file info for the PowerPoint file for the "Implementing Changes To Delivery" document. I've attached a photo of the info screen. To confirm the suspicion that this document was compiled some time ago and not because of the coronavirus emergency, you will note that the document was first created on 28 January 2020 and last modified on 27 April 2020 (at 1710). Also, the file title is "IA Contingency Arrangements Update 28th January 2020"

So, it looks like it was originally prepared as a plan to deal with Industrial Action (I'm guessing IA is an abbreviation for Industrial Action), but that the document has been amended recently to include reference to coronavirus. There was no coronavirus emergency in the UK at the end of January and the country was preoccupied with Brexit at the end of the month and "bung a bob for Big Ben Brexit bongs" at the time!
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Wow great find!!
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Post by LaggyBand »

A2B wrote:
LaggyBand wrote:
A2B wrote:
smileski wrote:So there appears to be no guidance on how managers decide which 50 per cent become fixed Saturday off?

This is going to be brutal!
Sure is, i've very little faith any of it will be productive for RM in the short term .
It’s covered in the PowerPoint guidance, is it not?
But that's not a workable solution for every office, it's one size fits all
He was saying there appears to be no guidance on how to select. I’m saying it’s in the PowerPoint presentation.

Whether that guidance works on the other hand...
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Post by IloveMYredTROLLEY! »

goneaway wrote:
TrueBlueTerrier wrote:picked from Facebook and other sources
Delivery Operation Update v4.pptx
CWU has NOT agreed to this and has NOT been consulted.They WILL be reacting nationally, regionally and locally, very soon.
I've found something really telling looking at the file info for the PowerPoint file for the "Implementing Changes To Delivery" document. I've attached a photo of the info screen. To confirm the suspicion that this document was compiled some time ago and not because of the coronavirus emergency, you will note that the document was first created on 28 January 2020 and last modified on 27 April 2020 (at 1710). Also, the file title is "IA Contingency Arrangements Update 28th January 2020"

So, it looks like it was originally prepared as a plan to deal with Industrial Action (I'm guessing IA is an abbreviation for Industrial Action), but that the document has been amended recently to include reference to coronavirus. There was no coronavirus emergency in the UK at the end of January and the country was preoccupied with Brexit at the end of the month and "bung a bob for Big Ben Brexit bongs" at the time!
On the presumption this is legit, surely this info is massive ammo for the CWU, just for getting the public on-side at the very least.
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Post by FilthyBloke »

We tried it yesterday. Just packets. I was finished by 10am. Was told when I got back I had to throw my Monday’s mail into fitting but it hasn’t arrived so I went home. Monday will be fairly bad but I work to my time and make sure I have my lunch so it won’t trouble me that much. Iv already told them if I turn up in the morning and nobody is keeping to the 2 metre rule I will sit in canteen until they do. Either way I’m not going over my time.

As for the Saturdays and choosing who has to stay at home I’m not fussed either way. Every day is a Saturday atm. Kids are at home. Football ain’t on.

Hopefully the Covid 19 restrictions will lift soon and we will see Royal Mails true intentions.
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Post by danny2006 »

I am on long weekend, so missed all the fun and games from yesterday. My Postie (Not my office) was out delivering mail and packets yesterday, said it was one of the walks that failed on Friday and management wanted it cleared.
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Post by junior1 »

Our manager asked those of us who finished early on Saturday to carry the time over to cover the Monday work load which could take us over our usual finish time. Is this a reasonable request?
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Post by sorefeet17 »

junior1 wrote:Our manager asked those of us who finished early on Saturday to carry the time over to cover the Monday work load which could take us over our usual finish time. Is this a reasonable request?
I thought time couldn't be carried over from one week to the next, someone on here should know more than me about this though.
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Post by stoneybroke »

junior1 wrote:Our manager asked those of us who finished early on Saturday to carry the time over to cover the Monday work load which could take us over our usual finish time. Is this a reasonable request?
I would speak to your Union rep about this but I'm 99% sure this is bullshit. They can't bank your hours from 1 day to the next. It's not your fault that they're incapable of controlling workload/resourcing.
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Post by junior1 »

Thanks guys, not sure we'll get anywhere with our rep, I heard him say to one of our 3 day job share contracts that they should compromise and swap their working day or bank it to work another day because they wouldn't be needed next Saturday. Some kind of guilt trip being put on them.