key workers

Post by **CRIBMAD** » 31 Mar 2020, 17:48

my son works for QVC hes getting 10 % bonus for going into work 4 days a week - £4000 good luck to him but just shows you how we are respected / treated

Tman · Post by **Tman** » 31 Mar 2020, 18:03

Murdoch wrote:
Ren Hoëk wrote:

The Neoliberal ideology should have died in 08. It has to die after this. The profit motive alone is not a way to deal with issues such as pandemics, climate change, antibiotic resistance, superbugs, mass extinctions, ecological collapse. .

Agreed, the Neoliberal ideology is rubbish all round. Problem is that it's less rubbish than any other system yet tried or proposed.
Don't quite see how the "profit motive" is connected to, or a way of dealing with issues as diverse as climate change, antibiotic resistances etc, or even how some ideology that isn't Neoliberal would deal with them any better or more successfully.
Is this the Corbynistic tactic of lumping all the "bad stuff" together and simplistically blaming "the Capitalists"?

Rumple · Post by **Rumple** » 31 Mar 2020, 18:56

Fdeezy wrote:It seems a common sense approach to pay more to people who were previously earning more. They had been used to earning a certain amount and their outgoings will most likely reflect that fact.

I dunno, maybe I'm just a capitalist pig. A bad one, mind. Always skint.

Why limit it to 80% of earnings upto £2500 per month? Surely by your thinking that is not fair on the people who are used to earning considerably more than that.

twiddledumb · Post by **twiddledumb** » 31 Mar 2020, 19:38

Fdeezy wrote:
Rumple wrote: Key word there, "earners". They are not earning it.
Boring response really. That all you got?

Jesus, I cannot believe what some people actually believe. That's all you need, because it's true ffs. I bet you are a SUN reader or some other Murdoch trash.

twiddledumb · Post by **twiddledumb** » 31 Mar 2020, 19:44

Fdeezy wrote:It seems a common sense approach to pay more to people who were previously earning more. They had been used to earning a certain amount and their outgoings will most likely reflect that fact. They were paying a wedge more in tax too - why shouldn't they get a bit more of that back? Surely that's more fair than paying twiddledumb's plumber mate the same as the person a few streets over who works 16 hours at minimum wage?

I dunno, maybe I'm just a capitalist pig. A bad one, mind. Always skint.

What they were paying in tax already has been spent. They are not paying anything in tax now, we are, so you, the below average wage postie are paying to keep these non workers to sit at home playing xbox and make more money than you doing it spending your tax money to buy crap on amazon for you to deliver to them. If you are ok with that, then I guess you know your place. I bet you look to the ground every time you see someone who earns more than you "yes sir, thank you sir, go out to work in a pandemic while you sit at home and get more benefits than me sir? oh yes sir, my honour sir" etc etc.

Post by **TrueBlueTerrier** » 31 Mar 2020, 19:50

twiddledumb wrote: Jesus, I cannot believe what some people actually believe. That's all you need, because it's true ffs. I bet you are a SUN reader or some other Murdoch trash.

Reminder

TrueBlueTerrier wrote: Argue the points not the character

Ren Hoëk · Post by **Ren Hoëk** » 31 Mar 2020, 20:34

twiddledumb wrote:
Fdeezy wrote:It seems a common sense approach to pay more to people who were previously earning more. They had been used to earning a certain amount and their outgoings will most likely reflect that fact. They were paying a wedge more in tax too - why shouldn't they get a bit more of that back? Surely that's more fair than paying twiddledumb's plumber mate the same as the person a few streets over who works 16 hours at minimum wage?

I dunno, maybe I'm just a capitalist pig. A bad one, mind. Always skint.
What they were paying in tax already has been spent. They are not paying anything in tax now, we are, so you, the below average wage postie are paying to keep these non workers to sit at home playing xbox and make more money than you doing it spending your tax money to buy crap on amazon for you to deliver to them. If you are ok with that, then I guess you know your place. I bet you look to the ground every time you see someone who earns more than you "yes sir, thank you sir, go out to work in a pandemic while you sit at home and get more benefits than me sir? oh yes sir, my honour sir" etc etc.

You must be trolling because I refuse to believe anyone could be so stupid and ignorant.

Post by **TrueBlueTerrier** » 31 Mar 2020, 20:45

As posters are ignoring my moderation this thread is now locked.

Try and argue like adults, not the children you appear to try to emulate.