Okay I'll put it in simple terms.
If your manager suspends you on Monday for refusing to provide evidence what's your next move?
I am willing to see this through. Personally I have given my reasons for not wearing masks to my manager previously and they have been accepted.
I am also willing to take any consequences that come from this new position the company are adopting because my reason may not be enough now without evidence. But I believe that if I do get a suspension on Monday, that RM will be acting illegally.
If a am advised that RM's actions where legal, my job would be the least of my worries.
With what's been going on over the past year, I wouldn't take anything as a given.
The letter attached to the post I submitted came from the union's retained law firm.
As above, government guidance states that people are not required to provide medical evidence or a GP letter in these circumstances. This does not mean, however, that it would be unlawful or unreasonable for the employer to ask for such information and evidence. Much in the same way as any other disability or medical issue is handled in an employment context, medical evidence may be required to allow the employer to look into reasonable adjustments. If the employer also has reasonable grounds for thinking that the employee is falsely claiming an exemption, then they will generally be justified in asking for evidence.
Are you telling me you know better than employment lawyers?
Okay I'll put it in simple terms.
If your manager suspends you on Monday for refusing to provide evidence what's your next move?
I am willing to see this through. Personally I have given my reasons for not wearing masks to my manager previously and they have been accepted.
I am also willing to take any consequences that come from this new position the company are adopting because my reason may not be enough now without evidence. But I believe that if I do get a suspension on Monday, that RM will be acting illegally.
If a am advised that RM's actions where legal, my job would be the least of my worries.
With what's been going on over the past year, I wouldn't take anything as a given.
Wouldn't it just be easier to provide evidence of your severe illness from your doctor?
The letter attached to the post I submitted came from the union's retained law firm.
As above, government guidance states that people are not required to provide medical evidence or a GP letter in these circumstances. This does not mean, however, that it would be unlawful or unreasonable for the employer to ask for such information and evidence. Much in the same way as any other disability or medical issue is handled in an employment context, medical evidence may be required to allow the employer to look into reasonable adjustments. If the employer also has reasonable grounds for thinking that the employee is falsely claiming an exemption, then they will generally be justified in asking for evidence.
Are you telling me you know better than employment lawyers?
Like I said in an earlier post, there is a difference between asking and demanding.
The letter attached to the post I submitted came from the union's retained law firm.
As above, government guidance states that people are not required to provide medical evidence or a GP letter in these circumstances. This does not mean, however, that it would be unlawful or unreasonable for the employer to ask for such information and evidence. Much in the same way as any other disability or medical issue is handled in an employment context, medical evidence may be required to allow the employer to look into reasonable adjustments. If the employer also has reasonable grounds for thinking that the employee is falsely claiming an exemption, then they will generally be justified in asking for evidence.
Are you telling me you know better than employment lawyers?
Like I said in an earlier post, there is a difference between asking and demanding.
You are right. They can't demand that you provide evidence. They can only ask.
But, if you choose not to provide the evidence asked for, then they can demand that you wear a facemask in the workplace.
Its literally been a year now and you've had enough time to get an exemption. I don't see why you are going to the extreme if you have a genuine reason.
Also as someone pointed out, if a face mask is severely restricting your airflow, then why are you not shielding right now?
Today i requested 5 people to please pull their masks up over their nose. One of those, who is a RM employee, ignored my request saying " i wear glasses & they steam up & I may trip up if I can't see where i am going" I replied another colleague who wears glasses purchased some anti- fog wipes which help. But of course it is easier not to wear the mask correctly than try a solution.
I would of thought that anybody who feels this way would have removed themselves from the office for the many months before face masks where required and stayed away until their office was totally safe.
I have removed myself from the busiest indoor periods.
If I felt I was unable to ensure the health of my colleagues due to an inability to wear a mask out of respect for my colleagues I would have done the same.
None of our non mask wearers seem to give a s**t about anyone but themselves.
The societies of consumption and squandering of material resources are incompatible with the idea of economic growth and a clean planet.
Caesar is also a staunch Anti-Vaxxer - funny that isnt it?
Im just going to say it, I dont believe you and most on this thread dont believe you.
You are a danger to your colleagues and I hope you get taken to task tomorrow.
Cheers mate.
I would like to say that like most, I didn't even question vaccines before this covid episode even though I've always tried avoid medicines.
You are right, I am anti-vaccine now but also believe that if you believe in it, it's best for you to take it as fear and stress can be as bad for your health as the possible harm that a vaccine could do depending on what's in the vaccine.
I don't and never have believed in the official explanation of what we are facing but I have still followed any guidelines regarding others safety.
Caesar is also a staunch Anti-Vaxxer - funny that isnt it?
Im just going to say it, I dont believe you and most on this thread dont believe you.
You are a danger to your colleagues and I hope you get taken to task tomorrow.
Cheers mate.
I would like to say that like most, I didn't even question vaccines before this covid episode even though I've always tried avoid medicines.
You are right, I am anti-vaccine now but also believe that if you believe in it, it's best for you to take it as fear and stress can be as bad for your health as the possible harm that a vaccine could do depending on what's in the vaccine.
I don't and never have believed in the official explanation of what we are facing but I have still followed any guidelines regarding others safety.
Apart from wearing a mask.
I repeat, you are a danger to your colleagues and I hope you get taken to task.
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next