Vaccine for Covid-19 would you take it?

clashcityrocker · Post by **clashcityrocker** » 19 Oct 2020, 18:23

biggiehud wrote:Not a chance

Millions of years of evolution and it has come to this.

daveyeff · Post by **daveyeff** » 19 Oct 2020, 18:29

Bill Gates has got tabs on me now

Post by **rambo1** » 19 Oct 2020, 21:41

Woody Guthrie wrote:In epidemiology circles they call those that don't get a vaccine "free riders".
A bit like union non-members they're happy to sponge off the benefits of a vaccinated population without contributing in any way.

What, like people with five kids on benefits. That sort of level of sponger.?

matthew68 · Post by **matthew68** » 19 Oct 2020, 22:49

daveyeff wrote:
clashcityrocker wrote:
2yearpostie wrote:
Then why do some people have a reaction to the flu jab, my old man was really poorly after having it 3 yrs in a row.
Is he allergic to eggs?
just had mine today. they ask me that every single year. i am not allergic to eggs, but sometimes you do feel like s**t a day of 2 after you've had it. im expecting to feel s**t tomorrow or the day after, but its absolutely nothing compared to flu. covid was like a really bad cold to me and i was ill with it. but flu is a different beast altogether for me.

Talking of jabs has anyone used the Royal Mail free jab as Lloyds pharmacy haven’t got enough to give non vulnerable people at moment apparently?

shaun2urz · Post by **shaun2urz** » 19 Oct 2020, 23:27

Why would any sane person agree to having a vaccine when we know absolutely nothing of the long term effects??? Not for me thanks....

k979aaa · Post by **k979aaa** » 19 Oct 2020, 23:31

Why is Bill GATES and Patrick Vallance enhancing the dangers of COVID-19 they have shares in drug companies so they are drugs for want of a better word they are and they will gain far more the more drug's they sell. It is simple economics scare everybody to death and they will demand the vaccine at any price. Well it won't work we can remember that the thalidomide scandal and one of the people behind that was a NAZI doctor Heinrich Mückter who said all doctors were good! If the vaccine is proven I have no problem with it all vaccines need to be trialled as do all drugs for the good of us all!

Schiff · Post by **Schiff** » 19 Oct 2020, 23:46

k979aaa wrote:Why is Bill GATES and Patrick Vallance enhancing the dangers of COVID-19 they have shares in drug companies so they are drugs for want of a better word they are and they will gain far more the more drug's they sell. It is simple economics scare everybody to death and they will demand the vaccine at any price. Well it won't work we can remember that the thalidomide scandal and one of the people behind that was a NAZI doctor Heinrich Mückter who said all doctors were good! If the vaccine is proven I have no problem with it all vaccines need to be trialled as do all drugs for the good of us all!

Some people have shares in drugs companies. I have shares in Bacofoil. I consider it a sound investment as the sales of tinfoil to make hats seems to be going through the roof at the moment.

Post by **jmcg** » 19 Oct 2020, 23:54

I feel that bacofoil is a sensible investment.

k979aaa · Post by **k979aaa** » 20 Oct 2020, 00:00

Schiff wrote:
k979aaa wrote:Why is Bill GATES and Patrick Vallance enhancing the dangers of COVID-19 they have shares in drug companies so they are drugs for want of a better word they are and they will gain far more the more drug's they sell. It is simple economics scare everybody to death and they will demand the vaccine at any price. Well it won't work we can remember that the thalidomide scandal and one of the people behind that was a NAZI doctor Heinrich Mückter who said all doctors were good! If the vaccine is proven I have no problem with it all vaccines need to be trialled as do all drugs for the good of us all!
Some people have shares in drugs companies. I have shares in Bacofoil. I consider it a sound investment as the sales of tinfoil to make hats seems to be going through the roof at the moment.

Only if you have an objection to 5G or being monitored by your PDA while sat at home neither of which concern me!

Woody Guthrie · Post by **Woody Guthrie** » 20 Oct 2020, 00:22

Bill Gates already has more money than he can spend in a thousand lifetimes, so much that he's giving a huge chunk of it away but we're supposed to believe that he's involved in some deep state dark conspiracy which if exposed would probably lead to the death penalty in order to boost the value of some shares in a drug company?

That makes perfect sense.

k979aaa · Post by **k979aaa** » 20 Oct 2020, 00:59

Woody Guthrie wrote:Bill Gates already has more money than he can spend in a thousand lifetimes, so much that he's giving a huge chunk of it away but we're supposed to believe that he's involved in some deep state dark conspiracy which if exposed would probably lead to the death penalty in order to boost the value of some shares in a drug company?

That makes perfect sense.

Money is power power is control maybe he thinks during the fourth industrial revolution and climate change we don't need a world population as most of the work will be done by AI including our job's hence the need for less population if your not relevant in the process he probably thinks he will not be deemed worthy of succession by his offspring. How will the world deal with Artificial Intelligence cars trucks , planes ships and workplaces will not need humans even doctors or computer systems inventors will not be needed in the future hell even leaders of nations will not be needed nor unions or anyone except the originators of the algorithm of which everything will be based upon. Trashing the economy is the start of disruption and a cashless society is another control of the populace by restriction of opportunity is the other and tracking will be the final part. Most of the worlds top 20 nations do not need the populations we now have and would love to reduce this gradually by up to 90% over the next 10 to 20 years!

RTP · Post by **RTP** » 20 Oct 2020, 05:16

Signed up for the trials, but didn't get a reply thus far.

So yes I would have the vaccine without any hesitation.

Post by **baldrick** » 20 Oct 2020, 08:17

I have a very real phobia of injections, resulting from the childhood vaccinations. I wouldn't take the vaccine if it was administered by injection. I hope there will be another way of taking it.
When I worked at RM the NHS would come to Mount Pleasant every autumn to give flu jabs to anyone who wanted one. I only took the vaccine one year when they used a high pressure jet to fire it through the skin.
I saw a news report last month where Cambridge University research labs, apart from working on a covid vaccine, were also developing a hand held high pressure pump to deliver it through skin.
They said they recognised that a lot of people have injection phobias. I would certainly take it if I could.

silver_fox · Post by **silver_fox** » 20 Oct 2020, 10:53

There is absolutely no need for vaccines to extinguish the pandemic. I’ve never heard such nonsense talked about vaccines. You do not vaccinate people who aren’t at risk from a disease. You also don’t set about planning to vaccinate millions of fit and healthy people with a vaccine that hasn’t been extensively tested on humans. One thought piece suggests that anyone who refuses vaccination should be subject to indefinite house arrest (Mello et al, 2020). In some countries, there is talk of “no jab, no job”. There have even been job adverts for openings in NHS Wales for people to “oversee the vaccination of the entire population”. Any such proposals are not only completely unnecessary but if done using any kind of coercion at all, illegal. I would completely understand and would consider accepting early use of a vaccine only if done with fully informed consent and, even then, only if offered to the most vulnerable in our community. Other proposals have, to me, the whiff of evil about them and I will oppose them as vigorously as I have followed the pandemic so far.

Post by **rambo1** » 20 Oct 2020, 18:48

silver_fox wrote:There is absolutely no need for vaccines to extinguish the pandemic. I’ve never heard such nonsense talked about vaccines. You do not vaccinate people who aren’t at risk from a disease. You also don’t set about planning to vaccinate millions of fit and healthy people with a vaccine that hasn’t been extensively tested on humans. One thought piece suggests that anyone who refuses vaccination should be subject to indefinite house arrest (Mello et al, 2020). In some countries, there is talk of “no jab, no job”. There have even been job adverts for openings in NHS Wales for people to “oversee the vaccination of the entire population”. Any such proposals are not only completely unnecessary but if done using any kind of coercion at all, illegal. I would completely understand and would consider accepting early use of a vaccine only if done with fully informed consent and, even then, only if offered to the most vulnerable in our community. Other proposals have, to me, the whiff of evil about them and I will oppose them as vigorously as I have followed the pandemic so far.

Well said. Totally agree. Many won't though as they're being brainwashed.

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