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9am/1pm SD delivery times change on Mon 28

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SpacePhoenix
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Post by SpacePhoenix »

The system will have been flagging up any failures based on the original 9am & 1pm times. RM won't have changed the times to be flagged in the system (there would be 1,000s of lines of programming code to go through, probably on multiple servers and systems to change this).

The official times * * * ARE * * * 11am and 4pm

@PostmanBitesDog you need to get this raised with your local rep
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Post by PostmanBitesDog »

Yes, and despite the changes to 11am and 4pm, our office has decided not to go with it.

And here's the kicker: The local CWU rep and the area CWU rep have agreed to it.

I'm not making this nonsense up. It's mad, I tells ya, mad. :crazy:
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Post by clashcityrocker »

You clearly overestimate the importance of your manager and your union reps.

If I was in your office and they were spouting such unadulterated bullshit I would deliberately fail a SD just to see what they would do.
Which would be the square root of diddly squat.
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Post by PostmanBitesDog »

clashcityrocker wrote:You clearly overestimate the importance of your manager and your union reps.
Not just me, but the rest of the office have to put up with this as well.

Anyway, that's why I quit the CWU last year. And hopefully in the near future I'll be saying adiós to the managers, too.
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Post by Cucumber »

PostmanBitesDog wrote:Yes, and despite the changes to 11am and 4pm, our office has decided not to go with it.

And here's the kicker: The local CWU rep and the area CWU rep have agreed to it.

I'm not making this nonsense up. It's mad, I tells ya, mad. :crazy:
Is your office able to keep the 9am/1pm guarantee?
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Post by PostmanBitesDog »

Cucumber wrote:
PostmanBitesDog wrote:Yes, and despite the changes to 11am and 4pm, our office has decided not to go with it.

And here's the kicker: The local CWU rep and the area CWU rep have agreed to it.

I'm not making this nonsense up. It's mad, I tells ya, mad. :crazy:
Is your office able to keep the 9am/1pm guarantee?
We're actually doing okay despite the fewer staff numbers and no van sharing. Same with Tracked packages. It's a matter of arranging early morning starts, and leaving standard mail for a day and dealing with it the next day (a sort of "rolling over" method).
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Post by wallan »

PostmanBitesDog wrote:
Cucumber wrote:
PostmanBitesDog wrote:Yes, and despite the changes to 11am and 4pm, our office has decided not to go with it.

And here's the kicker: The local CWU rep and the area CWU rep have agreed to it.

I'm not making this nonsense up. It's mad, I tells ya, mad. :crazy:
Is your office able to keep the 9am/1pm guarantee?
We're actually doing okay despite the fewer staff numbers and no van sharing. Same with Tracked packages. It's a matter of arranging early morning starts, and leaving standard mail for a day and dealing with it the next day (a sort of "rolling over" method).
Managers / Reps have been reminded that Items failing due day delivery must be included in The Daily Report , rolling items due for delivery over till the next day would be classed as a failure
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Post by PostmanBitesDog »

wallan wrote:
PostmanBitesDog wrote:
Cucumber wrote:
PostmanBitesDog wrote:Yes, and despite the changes to 11am and 4pm, our office has decided not to go with it.

And here's the kicker: The local CWU rep and the area CWU rep have agreed to it.

I'm not making this nonsense up. It's mad, I tells ya, mad. :crazy:
Is your office able to keep the 9am/1pm guarantee?
We're actually doing okay despite the fewer staff numbers and no van sharing. Same with Tracked packages. It's a matter of arranging early morning starts, and leaving standard mail for a day and dealing with it the next day (a sort of "rolling over" method).
Managers / Reps have been reminded that Items failing due day delivery must be included in The Daily Report , rolling items due for delivery over till the next day would be classed as a failure
That's right.
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Post by Mr Rush »

I knew it would change without so much as an FYI from management before heading out on delivery. This is why having an account here has proven to be invaluable many times.
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Post by luddite »

We are fully staffed so apparently have no reason to fail a special, we went back to 1pm a while back, anyone who failed was in the office. Our rep said it was a local agreement, area rep never got back to us. As of Monday I will deliver anytime up to 4pm and see what happens.
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Post by yellowbelly »

Oh the irony - RM website states 11am and 4pm (for 9am'ers and 1pm'ers respectively) with effect from 28 Sep.

RM Coronavirus FAQ's v59 dated 30 Sep (forwarded through CWU channels here: https://www.cwu.org/wp-content/uploads/ ... rs-v59.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;) still states 12 mid-day and 9pm on page 22. :roll: :roll:

Arses and elbows.......
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Post by Cucumber »

The duty I'm mostly doing follows a very distinct route from start to finish and to stop what I'm doing to go and deliver a 1pm I won't make would cost me 15-20 mins, easily. Probably one of the few things they've got right in all this is to extend the delivery time for SD's.
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Post by SpacePhoenix »

Cucumber wrote:The duty I'm mostly doing follows a very distinct route from start to finish and to stop what I'm doing to go and deliver a 1pm I won't make would cost me 15-20 mins, easily. Probably one of the few things they've got right in all this is to extend the delivery time for SD's.
For DOs that cover towns and areas of cities, RM could have a single van take all the SDs out, doing solely SDs to get them done and out the way so no one has to break off route to do a SD