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mjd24 wrote:
POSTMAN wrote:People who live with them do not need to stay home with them.
Everything is in the link below.

But surely if these vulnerable/high risk people are living with someone who is going out everyday to work, especially in a job like ours, it sort of defeats the object of them self isolating?
The health expert with boris said people living with them didn't have to stay off but to follow guidelines on social distancing. So royal mail will say if you want to stay off it would be unpaid leave or annual leave. Or I suppose if they where really ruthless say that's fine, give us your notice!
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Stormproof wrote:I wonder if any of the staff that receive this letter will get paid or will RM stick to the 7 day pay then onto SSP :hmmmm
And where did you get that from?
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Post by rambo1 »

citypostie wrote:
mjd24 wrote:
POSTMAN wrote:People who live with them do not need to stay home with them.
Everything is in the link below.

But surely if these vulnerable/high risk people are living with someone who is going out everyday to work, especially in a job like ours, it sort of defeats the object of them self isolating?
The health expert with boris said people living with them didn't have to stay off but to follow guidelines on social distancing. So royal mail will say if you want to stay off it would be unpaid leave or annual leave. Or I suppose if they where really ruthless say that's fine, give us your notice!
Why don't they just temporarily lay people off, then the govt will pay 80% of their wage (something I would accept for not being at work) and it would save RM a stack of money too.
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geordieboy123 wrote:
Stormproof wrote:I wonder if any of the staff that receive this letter will get paid or will RM stick to the 7 day pay then onto SSP :hmmmm
And where did you get that from?
I was under the impression you may get 7 or 14 days full pay or otherwise you can take either SSP/annual leave/unpaid Special Leave as it was advice rather than an order from the government.
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POSTMAN wrote:Can you provide more clarity on who will be considered to be vulnerable from an underlying health condition perspective?
We understand that early next week the NHS will be sending a letter to individuals who they categorise as vulnerable due to an underlying condition. This will provide specific advice about what the individual should do and cover people who are at a particularly high risk of getting seriously ill with coronavirus. The medical conditions which we understand are covered include people who:
  • • have had an organ transplant and are taking immunosuppressant medicine
    • are having chemotherapy or radiotherapy
    • have blood or bone marrow cancer, such as leukaemia
    • have a severe chest condition, such as cystic fibrosis or severe asthma
    • have another serious health condition
If an employee believes that they are vulnerable due to an underlying health condition then they should have a communication / certificate from their GP.
To summarise this would we say those who usually get the annual flu jab for free – a good guide but NHS will be in touch.

POSTMAN : See normal news outlets for more info : I will update our stickies as soon as I get the info.

While I have already posted this, I will post again.
To summarise this would we say those who usually get the annual flu jab for free – a good guide but NHS will be in touch.

This is not correct, only those in the extremely vulnerable group will receive the letter not all those who receive a free flu jab, more than 20 million people get a free flu jab every year, the extreme group is 1.5 million people.
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Post by geordieboy123 »

Stormproof wrote:
geordieboy123 wrote:
Stormproof wrote:I wonder if any of the staff that receive this letter will get paid or will RM stick to the 7 day pay then onto SSP :hmmmm
And where did you get that from?
I was under the impression you may get 7 or 14 days full pay or otherwise you can take either SSP/annual leave/unpaid Special Leave as it was advice rather than an order from the government.
Watch the video with Rick McCaulay he actually states that “those who are advised to self isolate will be paid, we want to do the right thing”
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geordieboy123 wrote:
POSTMAN wrote:Can you provide more clarity on who will be considered to be vulnerable from an underlying health condition perspective?
We understand that early next week the NHS will be sending a letter to individuals who they categorise as vulnerable due to an underlying condition. This will provide specific advice about what the individual should do and cover people who are at a particularly high risk of getting seriously ill with coronavirus. The medical conditions which we understand are covered include people who:
  • • have had an organ transplant and are taking immunosuppressant medicine
    • are having chemotherapy or radiotherapy
    • have blood or bone marrow cancer, such as leukaemia
    • have a severe chest condition, such as cystic fibrosis or severe asthma
    • have another serious health condition
If an employee believes that they are vulnerable due to an underlying health condition then they should have a communication / certificate from their GP.
To summarise this would we say those who usually get the annual flu jab for free – a good guide but NHS will be in touch.

POSTMAN : See normal news outlets for more info : I will update our stickies as soon as I get the info.

While I have already posted this, I will post again.
To summarise this would we say those who usually get the annual flu jab for free – a good guide but NHS will be in touch.

This is not correct, only those in the extremely vulnerable group will receive the letter not all those who receive a free flu jab, more than 20 million people get a free flu jab every year, the extreme group is 1.5 million people.
POSTMAN : See normal news outlets for more info : I will update our stickies as soon as I get the info.

This is from RM's guide, things change daily as we know.
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geordieboy123 wrote:
Stormproof wrote:
geordieboy123 wrote:
Stormproof wrote:I wonder if any of the staff that receive this letter will get paid or will RM stick to the 7 day pay then onto SSP :hmmmm
And where did you get that from?
I was under the impression you may get 7 or 14 days full pay or otherwise you can take either SSP/annual leave/unpaid Special Leave as it was advice rather than an order from the government.
Watch the video with Rick McCaulay he actually states that “those who are advised to self isolate will be paid, we want to do the right thing”
@Storm See the stickie regarding 'normal' isolating, awaiting conformation on the those who get the letter, chances are it's the same.

https://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communi ... 71&t=94753" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Post by Dorset Plodder »

gary1975 wrote:
Nobody is allowed to work there day off to cover sickness and duties are just getting rotated nobody is getting sent back out on overtime to complete said duties.


I haven't seen anything "Official" about this. Is it just your Particular DOM worried that the extra OT is going to affect his bonus? :no no

My DOM was discussing on Saturday how we might manage the Deteriorating Delivery Situation. We're already half a dozen Posties down for next week. He didn't mention OT Bans, but did upset "The Runners" by saying if anyone returned to the Office before their Official Finish Time they could expect to be sent back out with some of the undelivered mail, that was left in the frames. :cuppa
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Solid organ transplant recipients
People with specific cancers:
people with cancer who are undergoing active chemotherapy or radical radiotherapy for lung cancer
people with cancers of the blood or bone marrow such as leukaemia, lymphoma or myeloma who are at any stage of treatment
people having immunotherapy or other continuing antibody treatments for cancer
people having other targeted cancer treatments which can affect the immune system, such as protein kinase inhibitors or PARP inhibitors
people who have had bone marrow or stem cell transplants in the last 6 months, or who are still taking immunosuppression drugs
People with severe respiratory conditions including all cystic fibrosis, severe asthma and severe COPD.
People with rare diseases and inborn errors of metabolism that significantly increase the risk of infections (such as SCID, homozygous sickle cell).
People on immunosuppression therapies sufficient to significantly increase risk of infection.
Women who are pregnant with significant heart disease, congenital or acquired.
So where's asthma diabeties, MS, various others.
I can't get on asthma .org, the other 2 all say the usual distance, washing ect and work from home if possible.
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Post by POSTMAN »

MS says...

If you're taking a DMT (disease modifying therapies)and think you have coronavirus, you should be able to continue taking it if your symptoms are mild. This is a change from our medical advisers’ advice last week based on new evidence.

For MS peeps, link here...
https://www.mssociety.org.uk/about-ms/t ... rus-and-ms" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

How coronavirus can affect people with diabetes
Coronaviruses can cause more severe symptoms and complications in people with diabetes, as well as in older people and those with other long-term conditions, such as cancer or chronic lung disease.

Everyone with diabetes, including those with type 1 and type 2, is more at risk of a severe complications if they develop coronavirus, but the way it affects you can vary depending on what type of diabetes you have.

When you have diabetes, being ill can make your blood sugar go all over the place. Your body tries to fight the illness by releasing stored glucose (sugar) into your blood stream to give you energy. But your body can’t produce insulin to cope with this, so your blood sugars rise.

Diabetes here...
https://www.diabetes.org.uk/about_us/news/coronavirus" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Post by Dorset Plodder »

I think anyone that's got even a minor problem is going to self-isolate if they've got any common sense, regarless of this letter. I think people with these kinds of problems are well aware of their vunerability. :hmmmm

I suppose the more relevant thing is if they need to be on this list to qualify for sick pay at work? I know a few people that are worried about being "Made" to self-isolate because of their shite T&Cs, which don't pay them until AFTER an intial qualifying period. And some get NO sick pay at all FFS :no no

Perhaps something our Colleagues should bear in mind when they're slagging down what crap T&Cs we have. :cuppa
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Post by clashcityrocker »

POSTMAN wrote:

People with severe respiratory conditions including all cystic fibrosis, severe asthma and severe COPD
So where's asthma diabeties, MS, various others.
I can't get on asthma .org, the other 2 all say the usual distance, washing ect and work from home if possible.
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2yearpostie wrote:our time has come, but these hubs they need to set up quick to deliver emergency food and medical stuff, umm hello :wave :wave
If you mean the 3 parcel hubs, one of them doesn't even AFAIK have a site identified yet and one i don't think has been built yet. They're probably an absolute minimum of 3 months from being ready
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clashcityrocker wrote:
POSTMAN wrote:

People with severe respiratory conditions including all cystic fibrosis, severe asthma and severe COPD
So where's asthma diabeties, MS, various others.
I can't get on asthma .org, the other 2 all say the usual distance, washing ect and work from home if possible.
:d'oh!

Got it ta, and re-read it, it's just we're gonna be inundated with those who are not on the list.
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