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Barnacle
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Re: privileges committee re Johnson lier or denier?
Our government made mistakes at the start of the pandemic and throughout. Delaying the start of lockdown, giving contracts to mates and donors, throwing money around like confetti etc. All of these errors and the scale of them need to be accounted for and audited.
However, there is no denying that Covid was indeed deadly and it was untreatable at first. Hundreds of thousands died, who would not have otherwise. Thousands are still ill with long Covid.
Denying the threat to health and life that Covid posed, is tin foil hat territory.
However, there is no denying that Covid was indeed deadly and it was untreatable at first. Hundreds of thousands died, who would not have otherwise. Thousands are still ill with long Covid.
Denying the threat to health and life that Covid posed, is tin foil hat territory.
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FilthyBloke
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Re: privileges committee re Johnson lier or denier?
It was deadly to a small minority. Mostly the old or vulnerable.Barnacle wrote: ↑04 Mar 2023, 17:06Our government made mistakes at the start of the pandemic and throughout. Delaying the start of lockdown, giving contracts to mates and donors, throwing money around like confetti etc. All of these errors and the scale of them need to be accounted for and audited.
However, there is no denying that Covid was indeed deadly and it was untreatable at first. Hundreds of thousands died, who would not have otherwise. Thousands are still ill with long Covid.
Denying the threat to health and life that Covid posed, is tin foil hat territory.
Some of the laws and rules were laughable. The stats were misleading, especially from the nhs, and the propaganda was incredible. Even the pope suggested that Jesus would have had the jab…..
And then came the bribery and threats of being sacked. And then came omicron…. The researchers/scientists that isolated said it was mild and that it be a mild cold yet our government said that two Jabs wasn’t enough…. A third will do it though!
And now with Matt hancocks leaks you can see that the politicians didn’t even believe in the stuff they were saying on TV.
And people who said it escaped from a lab were labelled tin foil hat wearers at the beginning. Now even the FBI says it’s likely.
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milly
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Re: privileges committee re Johnson lier or denier?
I'm afraid the evidence doesn't back up your claim that the Pandemic was deadly as the Media portrayed, it has a similar CFR to Influenza.Barnacle wrote: ↑04 Mar 2023, 17:06Our government made mistakes at the start of the pandemic and throughout. Delaying the start of lockdown, giving contracts to mates and donors, throwing money around like confetti etc. All of these errors and the scale of them need to be accounted for and audited.
However, there is no denying that Covid was indeed deadly and it was untreatable at first. Hundreds of thousands died, who would not have otherwise. Thousands are still ill with long Covid.
Denying the threat to health and life that Covid posed, is tin foil hat territory.
Lockdowns don't work, Masks don't work and the Jabs don't work and look to be very dangerous.
I would be interested to hear your thoughts why we now have high excess death rates in highly Jabbed Countries especially the ones the used the Novel mRNA technology.
Btw calling people conspiracy theorists , tin foil hat wearers, trans-phobic, homophobic or racist won't win you any arguments, it's a tactic used by clueless people.
Try debating using facts and logic.
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Barnacle
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Re: privileges committee re Johnson lier or denier?
With your degrees in virology and pharmacology you are wasted at Royal Mail.milly wrote: ↑04 Mar 2023, 17:24I'm afraid the evidence doesn't back up your claim that the Pandemic was deadly as the Media portrayed, it has a similar CFR to Influenza.Barnacle wrote: ↑04 Mar 2023, 17:06Our government made mistakes at the start of the pandemic and throughout. Delaying the start of lockdown, giving contracts to mates and donors, throwing money around like confetti etc. All of these errors and the scale of them need to be accounted for and audited.
However, there is no denying that Covid was indeed deadly and it was untreatable at first. Hundreds of thousands died, who would not have otherwise. Thousands are still ill with long Covid.
Denying the threat to health and life that Covid posed, is tin foil hat territory.
Lockdowns don't work, Masks don't work and the Jabs don't work and look to be very dangerous.
I would be interested to hear your thoughts why we now have high excess death rates in highly Jabbed Countries especially the ones the used the Novel mRNA technology.
Btw calling people conspiracy theorists , tin foil hat wearers, trans-phobic, homophobic or racist won't win you any arguments, it's a tactic used by clueless people.
Try debating using facts and logic.
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k979aaa
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Re: privileges committee re Johnson lier or denier?
As to the covid19 thing we all know now it was not as deadly as the media said but the the reason lockdown was to prevent the spread of a virus of unknown deadliness and I think back our government did the right thing. Thing is any unknown virus is a threat but the real reason was to prevent the health service being overwhelmed this has been the biggest concern people die all the time but you do not want criticality ill people clogging the hospitals up especially if your not funding them enough! Thing is I am not anti vax like some on here masks don't work but vaccines very rarely kill and I have had all the jabs still get ill but probably less ill. Thing is the economic damage but this is the same world over other nations like CHINA had a zero covid policy till two months ago not saying they are the best at dealing with this. This was but a warning to us all the next one could kill millions up on millions like the black death of 1348 here: https://www.bl.uk/learning/timeline/ite ... %20forever.
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milly
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Re: privileges committee re Johnson lier or denier?
Like I said try to debate with me using logic and reason rather trying to insult me, it doesn't make you look good.Barnacle wrote: ↑04 Mar 2023, 17:45With your degrees in virology and pharmacology you are wasted at Royal Mail.milly wrote: ↑04 Mar 2023, 17:24I'm afraid the evidence doesn't back up your claim that the Pandemic was deadly as the Media portrayed, it has a similar CFR to Influenza.Barnacle wrote: ↑04 Mar 2023, 17:06Our government made mistakes at the start of the pandemic and throughout. Delaying the start of lockdown, giving contracts to mates and donors, throwing money around like confetti etc. All of these errors and the scale of them need to be accounted for and audited.
However, there is no denying that Covid was indeed deadly and it was untreatable at first. Hundreds of thousands died, who would not have otherwise. Thousands are still ill with long Covid.
Denying the threat to health and life that Covid posed, is tin foil hat territory.
Lockdowns don't work, Masks don't work and the Jabs don't work and look to be very dangerous.
I would be interested to hear your thoughts why we now have high excess death rates in highly Jabbed Countries especially the ones the used the Novel mRNA technology.
Btw calling people conspiracy theorists , tin foil hat wearers, trans-phobic, homophobic or racist won't win you any arguments, it's a tactic used by clueless people.
Try debating using facts and logic.
Have you any idea why highly jabbed Countries have high excess deaths across all age groups since the Jab rollout?
Another couple of questions for you, why did the UK Government withdraw the AZ Jab in July 2022 and why are the Government no longer permitting the use of Boosters for the under 50's.
Please try and answer without being abusive, be kind.
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Kenfandango
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Re: privileges committee re Johnson lier or denier?
I think even if the majority of those who passed due to covid were elderly or had "underlying conditions," their deaths were still preventable by a government more interested in lining it's pockets than governing the people they alleged to represent.
Add to this the fact that the NHS was severely underfunded for the preceding 10 years, with sections of it handed over to private companies to run for profit, and hospitals being shut down all over the place in the name of "efficiency" (my local A+E used to be a mile from my house, now I have to go to a hospital 7 miles away... Ours is still there but the A+E isn't)... Of course the NHS was overwhelmed. They weren't "overstating" the problems, they'd seen waiting times increase to over 10 times they had been, seen doctors and nurses leave in their droves due to being overworked and underpaid, and basically been told "well it's austerity innit" whenever they raised these issues. Covid just highlighted problems that already existed and the people that were getting sick from it (regardless of your opinion on their age or illness levels) were too much for it to handle.
Add to this the fact that the NHS was severely underfunded for the preceding 10 years, with sections of it handed over to private companies to run for profit, and hospitals being shut down all over the place in the name of "efficiency" (my local A+E used to be a mile from my house, now I have to go to a hospital 7 miles away... Ours is still there but the A+E isn't)... Of course the NHS was overwhelmed. They weren't "overstating" the problems, they'd seen waiting times increase to over 10 times they had been, seen doctors and nurses leave in their droves due to being overworked and underpaid, and basically been told "well it's austerity innit" whenever they raised these issues. Covid just highlighted problems that already existed and the people that were getting sick from it (regardless of your opinion on their age or illness levels) were too much for it to handle.
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k979aaa
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Re: privileges committee re Johnson lier or denier?
So basically killed their own base but they have come up with vote id or you have vote registration if you don't have a postal vote!Kenfandango wrote: ↑04 Mar 2023, 18:02I think even if the majority of those who passed due to covid were elderly or had "underlying conditions," their deaths were still preventable by a government more interested in lining it's pockets than governing the people they alleged to represent.
Add to this the fact that the NHS was severely underfunded for the preceding 10 years, with sections of it handed over to private companies to run for profit, and hospitals being shut down all over the place in the name of "efficiency" (my local A+E used to be a mile from my house, now I have to go to a hospital 7 miles away... Ours is still there but the A+E isn't)... Of course the NHS was overwhelmed. They weren't "overstating" the problems, they'd seen waiting times increase to over 10 times they had been, seen doctors and nurses leave in their droves due to being overworked and underpaid, and basically been told "well it's austerity innit" whenever they raised these issues. Covid just highlighted problems that already existed and the people that were getting sick from it (regardless of your opinion on their age or illness levels) were too much for it to handle.
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milly
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Re: privileges committee re Johnson lier or denier?
I'm not personally anti-vax, they have been a fantastic benefit to humanity.k979aaa wrote: ↑04 Mar 2023, 17:54As to the covid19 thing we all know now it was not as deadly as the media said but the the reason lockdown was to prevent the spread of a virus of unknown deadliness and I think back our government did the right thing. Thing is any unknown virus is a threat but the real reason was to prevent the health service being overwhelmed this has been the biggest concern people die all the time but you do not want criticality ill people clogging the hospitals up especially if your not funding them enough! Thing is I am not anti vax like some on here masks don't work but vaccines very rarely kill and I have had all the jabs still get ill but probably less ill. Thing is the economic damage but this is the same world over other nations like CHINA had a zero covid policy till two months ago not saying they are the best at dealing with this. This was but a warning to us all the next one could kill millions up on millions like the black death of 1348 here: https://www.bl.uk/learning/timeline/ite ... %20forever.
My problem with these so-called "vaccines" is that it usually takes a minimum of 7 years to develop a Vaccine and these Vaccines aren't really Vaccines as you receive none of the pathogen in this Vaccine as it uses lipid nanoparticles to instruct your cells to make Spike Proteins which unfortunately seem to be the most Pathogenic part of the virus.
These Nanoparticles were supposed to stay in the deltoid muscle but in now looks like they can, in some cases circulate around the body and cause tissue inflammation in the bodies major organs, this is why we are seeing many cases of Pericarditis and Myocarditis, hence the many cases of sudden deaths, especially in young people.
Although I am far from being an expert in these matters it always amuses me when I am called an anti vaxxer by people who can't even explain how these Jabs work but took them anyway.
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FilthyBloke
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Re: privileges committee re Johnson lier or denier?
Questions they can’t answer. And there are plenty of questions they can’t answer as well.milly wrote: ↑04 Mar 2023, 17:56Like I said try to debate with me using logic and reason rather trying to insult me, it doesn't make you look good.Barnacle wrote: ↑04 Mar 2023, 17:45With your degrees in virology and pharmacology you are wasted at Royal Mail.milly wrote: ↑04 Mar 2023, 17:24I'm afraid the evidence doesn't back up your claim that the Pandemic was deadly as the Media portrayed, it has a similar CFR to Influenza.Barnacle wrote: ↑04 Mar 2023, 17:06Our government made mistakes at the start of the pandemic and throughout. Delaying the start of lockdown, giving contracts to mates and donors, throwing money around like confetti etc. All of these errors and the scale of them need to be accounted for and audited.
However, there is no denying that Covid was indeed deadly and it was untreatable at first. Hundreds of thousands died, who would not have otherwise. Thousands are still ill with long Covid.
Denying the threat to health and life that Covid posed, is tin foil hat territory.
Lockdowns don't work, Masks don't work and the Jabs don't work and look to be very dangerous.
I would be interested to hear your thoughts why we now have high excess death rates in highly Jabbed Countries especially the ones the used the Novel mRNA technology.
Btw calling people conspiracy theorists , tin foil hat wearers, trans-phobic, homophobic or racist won't win you any arguments, it's a tactic used by clueless people.
Try debating using facts and logic.
Have you any idea why highly jabbed Countries have high excess deaths across all age groups since the Jab rollout?
Another couple of questions for you, why did the UK Government withdraw the AZ Jab in July 2022 and why are the Government no longer permitting the use of Boosters for the under 50's.
Please try and answer without being abusive, be kind.
It amazes me that people still believe in the original official narrative.
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k979aaa
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Re: privileges committee re Johnson lier or denier?
Never said your anti vaxmilly wrote: ↑04 Mar 2023, 18:21I'm not personally anti-vax, they have been a fantastic benefit to humanity.k979aaa wrote: ↑04 Mar 2023, 17:54As to the covid19 thing we all know now it was not as deadly as the media said but the the reason lockdown was to prevent the spread of a virus of unknown deadliness and I think back our government did the right thing. Thing is any unknown virus is a threat but the real reason was to prevent the health service being overwhelmed this has been the biggest concern people die all the time but you do not want criticality ill people clogging the hospitals up especially if your not funding them enough! Thing is I am not anti vax like some on here masks don't work but vaccines very rarely kill and I have had all the jabs still get ill but probably less ill. Thing is the economic damage but this is the same world over other nations like CHINA had a zero covid policy till two months ago not saying they are the best at dealing with this. This was but a warning to us all the next one could kill millions up on millions like the black death of 1348 here: https://www.bl.uk/learning/timeline/ite ... %20forever.
My problem with these so-called "vaccines" is that it usually takes a minimum of 7 years to develop a Vaccine and these Vaccines aren't really Vaccines as you receive none of the pathogen in this Vaccine as it uses lipid nanoparticles to instruct your cells to make Spike Proteins which unfortunately seem to be the most Pathogenic part of the virus.
These Nanoparticles were supposed to stay in the deltoid muscle but in now looks like they can, in some cases circulate around the body and cause tissue inflammation in the bodies major organs, this is why we are seeing many cases of Pericarditis and Myocarditis, hence the many cases of sudden deaths, especially in young people.
Although I am far from being an expert in these matters it always amuses me when I am called an anti vaxxer by people who can't even explain how these Jabs work but took them anyway.
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k979aaa
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Re: privileges committee re Johnson lier or denier?
Well this is intriguing that the former business secretary of state had these views may I WARN you all it does contain profanity/swearing so be WARNED but here it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRT2eHzM0yw anyway probably never see him again but he was leader of the house under boris!
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k979aaa
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Re: privileges committee re Johnson lier or denier?
May I add this it was pre brexit with John Major here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_MibwzlZ84 the Major years were dull and boring but at least told the truth!
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FilthyBloke
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Re: privileges committee re Johnson lier or denier?
More leaks from Hancock. Seems like most of the population were duped.
Would love to have access to boris phone….
Would love to have access to boris phone….
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milly
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Re: privileges committee re Johnson lier or denier?
Yes those conspiracy theorists were correct again, the Government have taken the absolute Piss out of the population, they knew all along this virus wasn't serious.FilthyBloke wrote: ↑05 Mar 2023, 11:20More leaks from Hancock. Seems like most of the population were duped.
Would love to have access to boris phone….
Hancock is a vile specimen he reportedly wanted to frighten Britons into Covid compliance.
Former UK health secretary Matt Hancock wanted to “frighten the pants off everyone” to ensure compliance with the government’s Covid-19 restrictions, a trove of leaked text messages has revealed.
More than 100,000 text messages were leaked to the Sunday Telegraph newspaper. Among them is a purported exchange between Hancock and Cabinet Secretary Simon Case in which Case suggested in January 2021 that “fear” would be a “vital” factor in ensuring UK citizens’ compliance with Covid restrictions.
They also appear to show that Hancock discussed when to reveal information to the public about the discovery of a new strain of the virus in the hope of maximizing the impact of lockdown rules.
“Rather than doing too much forward signalling, we can roll pitch with the new strain,” a purported message from Case reads. Hancock reportedly responded: “We frighten the pants of (sic) everyone with the new strain.”
"When we do we deploy the new variant,” Hancock apparently asks in a subsequent message.
And yet we still have people believing in Lockdowns, Masks and Jabs.
The majority of the Public have been played for fool's.