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andy2007
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Re: IB on the site

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Spedley wrote:It can be even easier than that, if I were to put an image in my post hosted from a server I run then I could get this much information about you ...
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It won't do them any good if you use someone elses server (e.g. AOL). Because it only gives the location of the Server, NOT your Computer (I just checked!). And your ISP isn't allowed to tell them who, or where you are, without a Warrant. :hmmmm

In other words: If you DO have your own server. Then buy a second Computer, and use an ISP (Internet Service Provider) to connect to the Internet, when you come on here.
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or use a router to mask your IP :wink:
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Re: IB on the site

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Your area is very useful to th IB. If you've let 1 piece of info leak and they know your local office it doesn't take much to guess exactly who you are with a decent level of certainty.
You could hide your IP via a proxy but there isn't much point. Like someone said, denying everything gets the best results because they can't prove anything without breaking laws on privacy, however if they sack you then you can't legally complain without perjuring yourself.

Probably best following Postman's advise and keeping your comments within the general hubbub of the site.
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Re: IB on the site

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:Very Happy They can't hang you for speaking the truth!!
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Spedley wrote:Your area is very useful to th IB. If you've let 1 piece of info leak and they know your local office it doesn't take much to guess exactly who you are with a decent level of certainty.
You could hide your IP via a proxy but there isn't much point. Like someone said, denying everything gets the best results because they can't prove anything without breaking laws on privacy, however if they sack you then you can't legally complain without perjuring yourself.

Probably best following Postman's advise and keeping your comments within the general hubbub of the site.
indeed the less information you give the less they will use,not all postie live in the area they work in some even commute as much as 20 miles away.
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stokes11eg wrote::Very Happy They can't hang you for speaking the truth!!
nice theory but remember:

1. Timothy Evans was tried and executed in 1950 for the murder of his baby daughter Geraldine. An official inquiry conducted 16 years later determined that it was Evans's fellow tenant, serial killer John Reginald Halliday Christie, who was responsible for the murder. Evans was pardoned posthumously following this, in 1966.

2. Derek Bentley was a mentally retarded young man who was executed in 1953, also in the United Kingdom. He was convicted of the murder of a police officer during an attempted robbery despite the fact that it was his accomplice who fired the gun, and Bentley was under arrest at the time of the shooting
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Re: IB on the site

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Well why they are on here snooping, they can check out the poll. (how you gonna vote) Pass that information back to the top boys. Save everyone a lot of time. Then ballot us when there is a descent agreement to ballot us on.
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Re: IB on the site

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TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
stokes11eg wrote::Very Happy They can't hang you for speaking the truth!!
nice theory but remember:

1. Timothy Evans was tried and executed in 1950 for the murder of his baby daughter Geraldine. An official inquiry conducted 16 years later determined that it was Evans's fellow tenant, serial killer John Reginald Halliday Christie, who was responsible for the murder. Evans was pardoned posthumously following this, in 1966.

2. Derek Bentley was a mentally retarded young man who was executed in 1953, also in the United Kingdom. He was convicted of the murder of a police officer during an attempted robbery despite the fact that it was his accomplice who fired the gun, and Bentley was under arrest at the time of the shooting
:sad: Yip-- as a murder buff myself, I'm aware of those cases---anyway-- I feel I've already been hung out to dry by both Management and unions--cannae kill me twice! (although I expect they'll find a way!)
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coxie wrote:i dont care if the ib or managers find out who i am on here, i do my job properly i dont have anything to hide nor do i do anything that could land me in trouble, but they will never stop me having an opinion on here, i dont say anything i wouldnt say to their faces.
stokes11eg wrote::Very Happy They can't hang you for speaking the truth!!

You signed an official secrets act... Yeah I know, but we did...
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Re: IB on the site

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:Very Happy Yip-but as I am only discussing what they have already divulged to the very public press...they can hardly do me for that.I've never openly spoken about anything that is not in the public domain!
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stokes11eg wrote::Very Happy They can't hang you for speaking the truth!!
But it will not stop them trying to!.
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http://www.unitetheunion.com/news__even ... ose-1.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

. Quite a few ex RM managers now working for BA like Tony McCarthy hence the return to the 1870's . Point is - who & whom exactly is putting pressure on from high onto the IB to do all this spying on staff - e.g. suspicious events at Southport DO or spying on here ?? .

From my experience with another big union , all this following etc was Union Bashing ; to create a culture of fear to soften people up for privatisation .


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British Airways has suspended or disciplined 38 crew members, of which 14 are trade union representatives, during the course of the industrial dispute with Unite.
This dossier outlines the bullying and harassment that is taking place against union members and reps under the management of Willie Walsh.
The effect of this treatment on BA cabin crew has been devastating for these staff and has created an atmosphere of fear among the cabin crew community. Some are now on anti-depressants and others are simply too unwell to leave their homes.


THE CASES AGAINST MANY OF THE SUSPENDED STAFF IS AT BEST WEAK.


British Airways has suspended staff for:
• receiving and forwarding an alleged list of pilots prepared to undertake strike breaking to friends through their own private emails - three crew
• discussing the mere existence of the list on a union member only forum - two crew
• having a private conversation with a friend which was overheard by a pilot who assumed she was talking about the list of pilots, she was not - one crew member
• expressing dismay to a manager regarding the existence of BA’s graffiti board at Waterside, where staff were encouraged to offer support to the company, on which was written "cabin crew scum" - one cabin crew member disciplined.
• One crew member with a thirty-four year clean record asked a ground staff woman checking her suitcase in, in a light and jovial manner, if she was thinking of training as cabin crew.


MANAGEMENT INTIMIDATION


Unite is appalled by the manner in which staff were told of their suspension - some by email, some were called on their emergency contacts. Some were met by managers on landing and accompanied from the aircraft. Others were marched out of briefings or met by managers when they arrived for work. One pregnant crew member on bed rest in danger of losing her baby was suspended by letter as was another crew member who was recovering from surgery.
One crew member, unable to come in for a disciplinary hearing because she was caring for a seriously ill child was instructed to bring the child with her.
Management did not go through the normal disciplinary process.
In all cases, the decision to suspend had already been taken. All of the staff were suspended on allegations of bullying and harassment, some also had charges of contravening data protection levelled at them. All had their IDs taken from them and were accompanied from the premises. The frequency and speed with which these disciplinaries have been conducted has been unprecedented, with crew being contacted over a dozen times in a single day.
There are many more examples of aggressive management style of BA management. For instance union reps responsible for the union crew forum website have been contacted by management demanding that they provide them with the names of crew writing under pseudonyms. A motorcycle courier was sent to the home of the union’s branch secretary at 9pm with a 45 page legal document demanding he provide BA with the names of 32 crew writing under pseudonyms on the union forum website.


THE CONSEQUENCES


Several of the suspended cabin crew have been left extremely unwell as a result of their treatment by management, a number of staff have been medically signed off with stress and depression. One female crew member has been admitted to an urgent treatment centre because of the deterioration of her mental health. One is under the care of a psychiatrist. Several staff have letters from their GPs clearly stating that they are unable to attend a meeting with the company and in some cases should not be contacted at all.
In every case British Airways Health Services occupational therapists have overridden the GPs advice. Despite crew being highly distressed and in some cases hysterical on the telephone, BA has passed every single one fit to attend hearings.
British Airways’ conduct raises serious questions. The airline has a clear policy on bullying and harassment but when dealing with its own staff has completely ignored its own policy.

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Re: IB on the site

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Doesn't actually surprise me if they are looking in. Don't forget that Britain is Communist now and there's no such thing as free speech here anymore. If you have an opinion in my office, they consider you intelligent and want you out :chuckle
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No, I have to disagree with you about the Communist bit. If Britain WAS a Communist Country, we wouldn't be suffering constant attacks on Public Services, Benefits for those who need them, etc.. But you're right that there are far too many attacks on free speech.
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Re: IB on the site

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personally i couldnt give a fig if they knew who i am.i really donot care for the job that much to worry ..
so i will help them out.........
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