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Royal Mail proposes three-year pay deal to union

08 Feb 2020, 15:32

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-roya ... 0001a5a59e

Britain’s Royal Mail (RMG.L) has proposed a three-year pay deal to the Communication Workers Union (CWU) and wants to have detailed talks with its largest union, the company said on Twitter on Friday.

The company, which was dogged by the threat of strike action over the Christmas period, had said on Thursday that the CWU was preparing another strike ballot.

“We have today put forward a proposal to CWU, including a three-year pay deal,” Royal Mail said in Friday’s tweet.

"We want to get into detailed talks about our proposal and what we want from the union for our business," said here the company, which employs about 143,000 people in Britain.

Royal Mail warned on Thursday that it faced a challenging year ahead and could face a loss in its British business because of labor tensions and shrinking letter volumes.

The company’s German chief executive, Rico Back, has said it was vital that he proceeds with a plan to transform the British business into a sustainably profitable operation by 2024.

Royal Mail’s tweet included a video with more details about its proposal to the CWU, including modern tools and better equipment, as well as fairer and more manageable routes.

The company said it would not be able to reduce the working week by an hour, saying every hour reduced would cost the former postal monopoly 100 million pounds ($129 million).

“We want to enter talks with CWU and reach an agreement”, Shane O’Riordain, managing director of regulation and public affairs at Royal Mail, said in an email statement.

The CWU rebuffed Royal Mail’s proposal on Twitter.

"Rather than try and negotiate with our members via actors and actresses it would be great if you stopped moving ahead with unagreed changes and sat down seriously with the union," it tweeted



Last May, the chief executive pledged to invest 1.8 billion pounds in a five-year turnaround plan to refashion Royal Mail into an international parcel-led business that can profit from a future dominated by e-commerce.

The CWU did not immediately respond to a request for additional comments.

Royal Mail proposes three-year pay deal to union

08 Feb 2020, 15:54

Royal Mail proposes three-year pay deal to union

08 Feb 2020, 17:07

Rico's Deal for three years,
I swear by God this holy oath, that I want to offer unconditional obedience to the Führer of the German Reich and people, Rico Back, the commander-in-chief of the Royalmail, and be prepared as a brave postie to risk my life for this oath at any time.

Royal Mail proposes three-year pay deal to union

08 Feb 2020, 18:40

POSTMAN wrote:



She is a comedy creator according to her Twitter feed.. Seems about for RM! :left:

Royal Mail proposes three-year pay deal to union

08 Feb 2020, 18:49

FAB wrote:
POSTMAN wrote:



She is a comedy creator according to her Twitter feed.. Seems about for RM! :left:

When even your own managers will not present a policy or dictat sad ending for a communications company!

Royal Mail proposes three-year pay deal to union

08 Feb 2020, 19:26

The actual pay rises implemented;

April 2017 would normally be the point for the pay review.
In May 2018 the 5% pay increase was awarded & backdated to October 2017.
In October 2018 the first hour was implemented which was effectively a 2.6% increase to the hourly rate.
In April 2019 the 2% pay increase was awarded.

So my calculation is a 9.6% increase over 3 years

Royal Mail proposes three-year pay deal to union

08 Feb 2020, 19:57

rogersh wrote:The actual pay rises implemented;

April 2017 would normally be the point for the pay review.
In May 2018 the 5% pay increase was awarded & backdated to October 2017.
In October 2018 the first hour was implemented which was effectively a 2.6% increase to the hourly rate.
In April 2019 the 2% pay increase was awarded.

So my calculation is a 9.6% increase over 3 years

But it is they Royalmail who have abrogated the last pay deal this is now not a pay dispute but one of trust confidence and the future for all of us who are not sat in a heated swimming pool in Switzerland! Things have moved on how can we trust them when they use actors and actresses paid people to deceive us all! Why do we need this culture of deceit and greed if productivity was the cause of the abrogation of the last agreement why has the remuneration increased by more than inflation for the whole board of Royal Mail?

Royal Mail proposes three-year pay deal to union

08 Feb 2020, 22:22

3 year pay deal ? = will we get a vote on that? Not a chance, we have to follow the 4 pillars and this obsession with the Union leadership on a 35 hour week etc etc for which in my office... no-one is asking for !
Actually we would like a pay rise each year negotiated in time for the beginning of April and for some basics to be provided.... Enough (working) toilets for us all and some decent lighting would be a start. Employing enough cleaners to do some cleaning, rather than just sweeping up and emptying bins would be a luxury. B&H needs sorting too.

Union needs to start seeing the real world, the job and industry has changed ( and will undergo more changes ). If you can't even help us fight for some basics, you're not worth the millions paid in subs each year.

* Cue rabid responses.

Royal Mail proposes three-year pay deal to union

08 Feb 2020, 22:30

JKSmudge wrote:3 year pay deal ? = will we get a vote on that? Not a chance, we have to follow the 4 pillars and this obsession with the Union leadership on a 35 hour week etc etc for which in my office... no-one is asking for !
Actually we would like a pay rise each year negotiated in time for the beginning of April and for some basics to be provided.... Enough (working) toilets for us all and some decent lighting would be a start. Employing enough cleaners to do some cleaning, rather than just sweeping up and emptying bins would be a luxury. B&H needs sorting too.

Union needs to start seeing the real world, the job and industry has changed ( and will undergo more changes ). If you can't even help us fight for some basics, you're not worth the millions paid in subs each year.

* Cue rabid responses.

No rabid response here agree with all you say :thumbup

Royal Mail proposes three-year pay deal to union

09 Feb 2020, 09:56

Spot on. Like it or not, times change and RM needs to adapt to survive, otherwise will go the same way as British Leyland and the miners, while the CWU is in danger in coming across as a bunch of dinosaurs. As for the SWW (which no one in my office seems to care about) if I've got a choice of a payrise or a SWW, I will take the payrise, a SWW won't pay the bills

Royal Mail proposes three-year pay deal to union

09 Feb 2020, 11:19

Yip agree with most as people have stated above,
But the sww is crucial walks are going to get a lot longer etc fatigue & Wear and tear on your body that why the sww is mega important,
Plus were going to lose a lot of jobs to automation and the union got a great deal in the four pillars so we benefit from losing jobs to automation hence the sww

Royal Mail proposes three-year pay deal to union

09 Feb 2020, 11:21

It's a strange message they've putting out.

We can't afford the SWW.
We can afford a 3 year pay deal.

Assuming the pay deal is on or around inflation the pay deal will cost a great deal more than the SWW so what they're really saying is that they either can't afford both and believe that the members would rather have a pay rise or they're taking it off the table now to trade it later in the negotiations.

What members have to also remember is that the SWW is more about aligning the reduction in indoor work with work hours so without it deliveries will get longer and full-time opportunities will decrease. That's a choice members might have to make especially combined with parcel separation.

Royal Mail proposes three-year pay deal to union

09 Feb 2020, 11:25

Royalmail just want to screw us over ..


Read an article on italian postal service same set up as us,
But there CEO have made the business a great success got the workers on board from 5 day week to 7 days and loads of new products.

Our CEO are on another planet

Royal Mail proposes three-year pay deal to union

09 Feb 2020, 11:27

I take it new full time contracts will be back to 38 hours now rather than 35.

Royal Mail proposes three-year pay deal to union

09 Feb 2020, 12:00

Still think pay deal isnt a pay rise.

Royal Mail proposes three-year pay deal to union

09 Feb 2020, 12:21

leolion855 wrote:Still think pay deal isnt a pay rise.


If it wasn't a pay rise they wouldn't be publicly offering it.
The strings attached or how it's going to be paid for may be interesting.

It could be a pay rise that has so many conditions that we'll never achieve it.

Royal Mail proposes three-year pay deal to union

09 Feb 2020, 13:14

Offering a 3 year pay deal is fine but at what cost to employees ?? Personally I think there will be a lot of big demands from Royal Mail to get this.later starts/finishes and terms & conditions that have been won by the union over the years. The union knows change is going to happen but are hopefully trying to manage it in a way staff are not totally shafted

Royal Mail proposes three-year pay deal to union

09 Feb 2020, 14:28

if mail is declining and we are supposedly doing less, is it not a benefit to the royal mail to reduce the working week and save paying 143000 people an hour extra each week ? How does it cost £100 million to implement this reduction ? Plus less holiday pay to each of us also.

Royal Mail proposes three-year pay deal to union

09 Feb 2020, 14:34

hero22 wrote:if mail is declining and we are supposedly doing less, is it not a benefit to the royal mail to reduce the working week and save paying 143000 people an hour extra each week ? How does it cost £100 million to implement this reduction ? Plus less holiday pay to each of us also.

The full time staff don't get paid an hour less with the reduction in the working week.They get an increase in their hourly rate.
The part time staff get a pay increase as a result.

Royal Mail proposes three-year pay deal to union

09 Feb 2020, 14:50

In theory we no longer work the time taken away from us by the SWW.
In practice we still work that time as the amount of work is the same or has increased.
Would be far better to add more hours to the duties of part time staff as what they are expected to do mostly does not fit into a part time duty time.

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