Is this the way forward??

[scotchy1962]

As you are all aware the present policy of revisions is working out well for all involved (Not). So going forward the intention, to the best of my knowledge, is to eventually drop everybody down to a 35Hr contract as f/t. Now maybe i am wrong but so far for all the hours taken off f/t workers has resulted in bigger unmanageable duties and less time to do them in never mind the parcel explosion since covid. Simple maths and a bit of common sense can only mean that a shorter working week is not attainable without less for you to do not more. Maybe i am blind and daft or maybe the union and management are i leave that for you to decide but this cannot really be the way forward for everybody concerned, they seem to have a aversion to facing up to the reality of the situation by blaming the posties or each other instead of the simple solution, more duties and more posties it really is that easy. But hey what do i know.

[clashcityrocker]

I think you are underestimating the role of automation.

[postieblueshirt]

Yeah and by the time rm implement it we will all be long gone...

[citypostie]

I think you are underestimating the role of automation.

They've been talking about automation for years and how the indoor work would decrease. The opposite has happened, the 2nd mech isn't sequenced anymore and we do more manual sorting now than ever before because of the reduction of full time staff.
And now we have all the mountains of tracked parcels to scan in a morning, in order to get that done they are paying overtime Every morning without fail. Don't understand why they didn't put us on 4 day weeks with earlier starts to do the early ips and tracked scanning they pay out for every morning

[ssdd]

Yeah and by the time rm implement it we will all be long gone...

You really think so, with the pace of change that's underway? Unless you're looking at a new job in the near future...

[postieblueshirt]

I'd say that il last another 10 years so still a while but if they keep forcing change like they have it will break,the quality will be gone because most of the current workforce can't change as fast.theres already problems getting most long term guys to get it right with what's changed already.i think that at some point it's really all going to fall apart so they can try to change it but they will leave a huge chunk of workers more and more behind.

[SpacePhoenix]

I think you are underestimating the role of automation.

They've been talking about automation for years and how the indoor work would decrease. The opposite has happened, the 2nd mech isn't sequenced anymore and we do more manual sorting now than ever before because of the reduction of full time staff.
And now we have all the mountains of tracked parcels to scan in a morning, in order to get that done they are paying overtime Every morning without fail. Don't understand why they didn't put us on 4 day weeks with earlier starts to do the early ips and tracked scanning they pay out for every morning

tbqf quite a lot of the time it's not worth sequencing some batches on wave 2. I've often had batches that are barely over a box. If we were to go back to sequencing all of wave 2 then we'd have to have all the final dispatches a couple of hours later, which would mean delivery staff starting a couple of hours later as well

[Phantom]

A 35 hour a week for me would mean leaving even more mail indoors, that's perfectly fine for me to do that.

RM will simply have to create more walks, the indoor sorting is becoming more and more manual than ever now.

The Union are right to be on a path for 35hrs.

[JKSmudge]

The aim for 35 hours whilst doing more work, revisions etc etc...... don't forget around 90% of you voted FOR it !!!!

Can't help but laugh at some of the comments regularly posted on this site.... we know RM cannot organise anything corretly and the foot soldiers knowledge/advice would be ignored.... why did you all think it would be different this time around ?

We are our own worst enemies, until we see that the Union leadership is woeful and doesn't have a clue about the real world job, we will repeat past mistakes.

Thankfully I'm out of here in a couple of years, but I do care about you poor sods who are left to deal with the cr@p that the union and RM manage to make of it.

[Chelseablue]

Agree with you smudge , never voted yes to anything in all these years . Weve been done over but all we do is moan , never any taking action or standing up for ourselves . There are a lot of selfish staff in every office , its embarrassing

[Phantom]

All you gotta do is cut off.

[postslippete]

I think you are underestimating the role of automation.

They've been talking about automation for years and how the indoor work would decrease. The opposite has happened, the 2nd mech isn't sequenced anymore and we do more manual sorting now than ever before because of the reduction of full time staff.
And now we have all the mountains of tracked parcels to scan in a morning, in order to get that done they are paying overtime Every morning without fail. Don't understand why they didn't put us on 4 day weeks with earlier starts to do the early ips and tracked scanning they pay out for every morning

tbqf quite a lot of the time it's not worth sequencing some batches on wave 2. I've often had batches that are barely over a box. If we were to go back to sequencing all of wave 2 then we'd have to have all the final dispatches a couple of hours later, which would mean delivery staff starting a couple of hours later as well

So what do you do with the time you save by not processing wave 2 space?? Do you get to finish your shift early and go home?

[SpacePhoenix]

I think you are underestimating the role of automation.

They've been talking about automation for years and how the indoor work would decrease. The opposite has happened, the 2nd mech isn't sequenced anymore and we do more manual sorting now than ever before because of the reduction of full time staff.
And now we have all the mountains of tracked parcels to scan in a morning, in order to get that done they are paying overtime Every morning without fail. Don't understand why they didn't put us on 4 day weeks with earlier starts to do the early ips and tracked scanning they pay out for every morning

tbqf quite a lot of the time it's not worth sequencing some batches on wave 2. I've often had batches that are barely over a box. If we were to go back to sequencing all of wave 2 then we'd have to have all the final dispatches a couple of hours later, which would mean delivery staff starting a couple of hours later as well

So what do you do with the time you save by not processing wave 2 space?? Do you get to finish your shift early and go home?

Nope. We'd just get moved to other sections, then we'd have a hope of finishing on time. RM would just cut some hours from whatever budget is used for casual/agency. We must have at least half a dozen casuals every night all year around

The early batches can sometimes get a couple of boxes as manual, where the iLSM is still running Plan 1. If we were to wait for the iLSM to finish running plan 1 then at best it'd be walk sort only, at worst it'd just go as manual. The alternative would be for final dispatch times to be later