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Break time lost.

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Break time lost.

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Our revisions is due to go in soon and our hours are changing as a result. The new hours include long and short days, the three shortest being 7hours long. That means that on the short days we are only entitled to 30 minutes break. This means that half of the hour off the working week is in fact coming off our breaks! As I understand this is in-line with the agreement with the union over break entitlement so could be difficult to object to, but does seem somewhat underhand. Is there anything we can do? Maybe refuse to vote it in? We have done this with previous revisions and they have been forced anyway.
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contact you area rep and tell him/she that they can f**k off with that one as you are not paying for your shorter working week by cutting meal breaks . :evil/mad
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Re: Break time lost.

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For reference...

Attendance length............total breaks..... probable/possible pattern

Less than 2 hours 30 minutes none (a 10 min grace break should be provided if work permits)
2 hours 30 to 3 hours................10 mins.................. 10
3 hours 1 to 3 hours 30..... .......15 mins....................15
3 hours 31 to 4 hours 59..... .......20 mins.................. 20
5 hours to 7 hours................... 30 mins...................30
7 hours 1 to 8 hours 59..... .......40 mins..............40 or 20 + 20
9 hours to 10 hours 59...............50 mins................30 + 20
11 hours to 12 hours 59..... .......60 mins............. 40 + 20 or 30 + 30
13 hours or longer..... ..............70 mins..................40 + 30
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Re: Break time lost.

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bo72 wrote:
27 Oct 2021, 17:38
We have done this with previous revisions and they have been forced anyway.
Executive action can (should) always be countered by a rule 13 ballot.
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Post by Chelseablue »

What is the rule 13 ballot?
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Chelseablue wrote:
28 Oct 2021, 17:19
What is the rule 13 ballot?
A local ballot for industrial action.
The societies of consumption and squandering of material resources are incompatible with the idea of economic growth and a clean planet.
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Re: Break time lost.

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POSTMAN wrote:
27 Oct 2021, 22:34
For reference...

Attendance length............total breaks..... probable/possible pattern

Less than 2 hours 30 minutes none (a 10 min grace break should be provided if work permits)
2 hours 30 to 3 hours................10 mins.................. 10
3 hours 1 to 3 hours 30..... .......15 mins....................15
3 hours 31 to 4 hours 59..... .......20 mins.................. 20
5 hours to 7 hours................... 30 mins...................30
7 hours 1 to 8 hours 59..... .......40 mins..............40 or 20 + 20
9 hours to 10 hours 59...............50 mins................30 + 20
11 hours to 12 hours 59..... .......60 mins............. 40 + 20 or 30 + 30
13 hours or longer..... ..............70 mins..................40 + 30
So in fact according to these times above, we do get 40 mins ?
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derricksmyth wrote:
29 Oct 2021, 05:47
POSTMAN wrote:
27 Oct 2021, 22:34
For reference...

Attendance length............total breaks..... probable/possible pattern

Less than 2 hours 30 minutes none (a 10 min grace break should be provided if work permits)
2 hours 30 to 3 hours................10 mins.................. 10
3 hours 1 to 3 hours 30..... .......15 mins....................15
3 hours 31 to 4 hours 59..... .......20 mins.................. 20
5 hours to 7 hours................... 30 mins...................30
7 hours 1 to 8 hours 59..... .......40 mins..............40 or 20 + 20
9 hours to 10 hours 59...............50 mins................30 + 20
11 hours to 12 hours 59..... .......60 mins............. 40 + 20 or 30 + 30
13 hours or longer..... ..............70 mins..................40 + 30
So in fact according to these times above, we do get 40 mins ?
sorry just seen the 1 minute after the 7 hours!
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Re: Break time lost.

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The vote went against the revision, I wonder what will happen now? The good news is because it isn't now going in on 1st. November it can't happen until after Christmas now.
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Come back 5 mins late every day. Sorted.
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Often people who are pissed off work slower or WALK SLOWER!
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That’s exactly what our manager has done and also added extra lapsing, so 3 days a week we lose 10 minutes a day break so like you say we aren’t working one hour less per week and as usual a lot of mugs are still coming in 1 hours early anyway because they are scared to cut off, we have week workers and a rep who isn’t bothered it just keeps getting worse and nothing being done about it I think like a lot of people I will be looking for another job soon as all they want our young yes people in the job