Dispute Update : Today Royal Mail have announced executive action in 15 different offices across the UK.

Post by **POSTMAN** » 28 Jan 2020, 12:10

Everything will come in.
There will be terms of reference, joint statements and 'the words'.

It will of course be interpreted differently by management to what The CWU says it means.
Managers will f**k things up per the norm.
Colleagues will find a way to f**k it up for the next colleague due on the next shift.

Bullying will go up because of all of the above and more.

Film at 11...always read the label...may contain nuts...not dishwasher safe...

NorthernPostman · Post by **NorthernPostman** » 28 Jan 2020, 17:50

Woody Guthrie wrote:
Are there any advantages to doing a LAT delivery??
It's a driving job so by definition a piece of piss.

The hours will suit some people, no more early rises and falling asleep at dinner.

Unlikely to be much contact with management.

You'll be earning far more than the Yodel, DPD and Hermes guys doing practically the same job.

No more D2D....

You get to see your mates hanging about outside the pub.

You get to listen to Steve Wright on radio 2 and pretend it's the 80s again.

The list is very exhaustive.

LAT driver here, can tell you it isn't all sunshine and rainbows.

ssdd · Post by **ssdd** » 29 Jan 2020, 01:45

NorthernPostman wrote:
Woody Guthrie wrote:
Are there any advantages to doing a LAT delivery??
It's a driving job so by definition a piece of piss.

The hours will suit some people, no more early rises and falling asleep at dinner.

Unlikely to be much contact with management.

You'll be earning far more than the Yodel, DPD and Hermes guys doing practically the same job.

No more D2D....

You get to see your mates hanging about outside the pub.

You get to listen to Steve Wright on radio 2 and pretend it's the 80s again.

The list is very exhaustive.
LAT driver here, can tell you it isn't all sunshine and rainbows.

Yeah, wait till you get all the 'small' parcels from walkers who say they're too big to take, then having 'discussions' with management about unacheivable workload.

Rush hour traffic? Just relax with the soothing sound of pan pipes on Radio 4.

Or how about trying to locate a rural address in the dark when the SATNAV is trying to direct you into the nearby river.

Yeah, it ain't all that...

Post by **SpacePhoenix** » 29 Jan 2020, 06:51

ssdd wrote:Yeah, wait till you get all the 'small' parcels from walkers who say they're too big to take, then having 'discussions' with management about unacheivable workload.

AFAIK with the new parcel strategy, the walkers will only take out parcels that will fit through a letter box

NorthernPostman · Post by **NorthernPostman** » 29 Jan 2020, 07:20

SpacePhoenix wrote:
ssdd wrote:Yeah, wait till you get all the 'small' parcels from walkers who say they're too big to take, then having 'discussions' with management about unacheivable workload.
AFAIK with the new parcel strategy, the walkers will only take out parcels that will fit through a letter box

RM have said only items above shoebox size. Don't know what size shoe they're using as reference

Post by **Sugar** » 29 Jan 2020, 10:10

SpacePhoenix wrote:
ssdd wrote:Yeah, wait till you get all the 'small' parcels from walkers who say they're too big to take, then having 'discussions' with management about unacheivable workload.
AFAIK with the new parcel strategy, the walkers will only take out parcels that will fit through a letter box

As said above its shoe-box size and above. If it did mean anything that wouldn't fit threw a letterbox the drivers would never finish on time due to the number they'd end up with. It's the mid-ranged packets and sign for items that are such a drain on time outdoors and if they were taken off deliverers then you would see a massive increase in duty spans for delivery personnel to make up for their loss. Then the walks would be achievable on a physical aspect mid/long term.

Its obvious when they came up with this idea it looked fantastic on paper and theory but in reality some serious headaches and confrontations going to be happening in DO's.

They should have never gone to van share, been a disaster since day 1 for a lot of offices.

banner18 · Post by **banner18** » 29 Jan 2020, 16:32

Sugar wrote:
SpacePhoenix wrote:
ssdd wrote:Yeah, wait till you get all the 'small' parcels from walkers who say they're too big to take, then having 'discussions' with management about unacheivable workload.
AFAIK with the new parcel strategy, the walkers will only take out parcels that will fit through a letter box
As said above its shoe-box size and above. If it did mean anything that wouldn't fit threw a letterbox the drivers would never finish on time due to the number they'd end up with. It's the mid-ranged packets and sign for items that are such a drain on time outdoors and if they were taken off deliverers then you would see a massive increase in duty spans for delivery personnel to make up for their loss. Then the walks would be achievable on a physical aspect mid/long term.

Its obvious when they came up with this idea it looked fantastic on paper and theory but in reality some serious headaches and confrontations going to be happening in DO's.

They should have never gone to van share, been a disaster since day 1 for a lot of offices.

One good aspect of van share has been the reduction of weight on the shoulders.

Post by **Sugar** » 29 Jan 2020, 16:39

banner18 wrote:
Sugar wrote:
SpacePhoenix wrote:
ssdd wrote:Yeah, wait till you get all the 'small' parcels from walkers who say they're too big to take, then having 'discussions' with management about unacheivable workload.
AFAIK with the new parcel strategy, the walkers will only take out parcels that will fit through a letter box
As said above its shoe-box size and above. If it did mean anything that wouldn't fit threw a letterbox the drivers would never finish on time due to the number they'd end up with. It's the mid-ranged packets and sign for items that are such a drain on time outdoors and if they were taken off deliverers then you would see a massive increase in duty spans for delivery personnel to make up for their loss. Then the walks would be achievable on a physical aspect mid/long term.

Its obvious when they came up with this idea it looked fantastic on paper and theory but in reality some serious headaches and confrontations going to be happening in DO's.

They should have never gone to van share, been a disaster since day 1 for a lot of offices.
One good aspect of van share has been the reduction of weight on the shoulders.

Not with 90% of the numb nuts I know. All dumped trolleys because they slowed them down

ted_e_bear · Post by **ted_e_bear** » 29 Jan 2020, 20:32

Out of interest has anyone got details of the 15 offices and what each example of the action is, presume it's not the same in every location ?

Celgar · Post by **Celgar** » 30 Jan 2020, 00:47

crimson king wrote:
Woody Guthrie wrote:
Are there any advantages to doing a LAT delivery??
It's a driving job so by definition a piece of piss.

The hours will suit some people, no more early rises and falling asleep at dinner.

Unlikely to be much contact with management.

You'll be earning far more than the Yodel, DPD and Hermes guys doing practically the same job.

No more D2D....

You get to see your mates hanging about outside the pub.

You get to listen to Steve Wright on radio 2 and pretend it's the 80s again.
You'll be listening to the two shows after Steve Wright's show and wearing a head torch as well!!!

The list is very exhaustive.
Ha, ha, steady! Put in those terms it sounds quite appealing...

Celgar · Post by **Celgar** » 30 Jan 2020, 00:50

NorthernPostman wrote:
SpacePhoenix wrote:
ssdd wrote:Yeah, wait till you get all the 'small' parcels from walkers who say they're too big to take, then having 'discussions' with management about unacheivable workload.
AFAIK with the new parcel strategy, the walkers will only take out parcels that will fit through a letter box

RM have said only items above shoebox size. Don't know what size shoe they're using as reference

Remember it's every Tracked item as well.

Celgar · Post by **Celgar** » 30 Jan 2020, 00:51

There has never been a successful non violent revolution.

Maybe now is the time........

wandle · Post by **wandle** » 03 Feb 2020, 20:11

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Bosley · Post by **Bosley** » 04 Feb 2020, 10:33

start on time take your breaks and work to rule; its not rocket science

clashcityrocker · Post by **clashcityrocker** » 04 Feb 2020, 10:48

Bosley wrote: start on time take your breaks and work to rule; its not rocket science

That is great advice but what does it mean for the people who are doing that but still finishing 60/90/120 minutes early?