The "how is/was your revision" thread

[norris9]

Does Royal Mail not understand that there are Posties who do these rounds day in day out who can tell them and their managers which rounds are too big and which ones are too small and simply make adjustments on our feedback. All you do is shift 10 or 20 minutes of a round that's too big onto a round nearby that is too small. I doubt that many rounds nationwide are more than 20 minutes out of wack. Typically there are another 3 or 4 rounds which border your own round, so it should not be too difficult to make adjustments just using common sense instead of some computer program.


Why are we not trusted or listened to. How much are they paying these planners? - it seems a total waste of time and money. All you have to do is discuss with Posties how to make adjustments. Yes, some Posties will disagree about timings, but that's probably down to speed or efficiency of the Posties. At the end of the day, there would be a re-pick, so it's not like you have to pick into a round YOU think is too big.


Also, why can't changes be made at anytime. Say there is consensus that a revision wasn't quite right.... why not amend as you go. If a few months down the line it's clear a round is too big and another is too small - why not fix it?

[SpacePhoenix]

Does Royal Mail not understand that there are Posties who do these rounds day in day out who can tell them and their managers which rounds are too big and which ones are too small and simply make adjustments on our feedback. All you do is shift 10 or 20 minutes of a round that's too big onto a round nearby that is too small. I doubt that many rounds nationwide are more than 20 minutes out of wack. Typically there are another 3 or 4 rounds which border your own round, so it should not be too difficult to make adjustments just using common sense instead of some computer program.


Why are we not trusted or listened to. How much are they paying these planners? - it seems a total waste of time and money. All you have to do is discuss with Posties how to make adjustments. Yes, some Posties will disagree about timings, but that's probably down to speed or efficiency of the Posties. At the end of the day, there would be a re-pick, so it's not like you have to pick into a round YOU think is too big.

Some of that might be down to the runners who've made rounds look doable which in reality aren't doable

[POSTMAN]

Looking at all these revisions there should be a thread naming the offices but done in a way that protects the individual reporting it as a disaster. Maybe then one of the snoopers that frequents this site screenshotting the negativity this site allegedly promotes for workplace might take note and see it for what it is "Van Share Revision 2.0" and the legacy that left people with. History seems to be repeating itself.

Back in the day...
OFFICES WITH A FAILING REVISION:LIST

[norris9]

Some of that might be down to the runners who've made rounds look doable which in reality aren't doable

Runners are rare in my large depot and thank god 2 I knew of have both now gone. I think most Posties will tell you what is doable if the job is done as Royal Mail supposedly want it done.

[Chelseablue]

Norris your spot on , find it strange that we are all saying the same thing, we were never listened to regarding doing the duties right etc . Now ? Its a complete disaster frames n frames of mail being left day in day out . All union say is just work your hours but why was this allowed to happen in the first place ,,,,Terry ?

[Krypteia]

Looking at all these revisions there should be a thread naming the offices but done in a way that protects the individual reporting it as a disaster. Maybe then one of the snoopers that frequents this site screenshotting the negativity this site allegedly promotes for workplace might take note and see it for what it is "Van Share Revision 2.0" and the legacy that left people with. History seems to be repeating itself.

Back in the day...
OFFICES WITH A FAILING REVISION:LIST

Looking at that brings all the chaos we went through back. The run up to Christmas that year was horrific and this year looks to be exactly the same. Lots of O/T for managers being shipped all over the country to pick up the backlog that's failing day after day.

[yellowbelly]

Does Royal Mail not understand that there are Posties who do these rounds day in day out who can tell them and their managers which rounds are too big and which ones are too small and simply make adjustments on our feedback. All you do is shift 10 or 20 minutes of a round that's too big onto a round nearby that is too small. ..........

Because someone's opinion that a round is 'too small' is often subjective and influenced by office politics.

You'll find posties that say 'their' round is too big or just right but never too small.

[ssdd]

Does Royal Mail not understand that there are Posties who do these rounds day in day out who can tell them and their managers which rounds are too big and which ones are too small and simply make adjustments on our feedback. All you do is shift 10 or 20 minutes of a round that's too big onto a round nearby that is too small. ..........

Because someone's opinion that a round is 'too small' is often subjective and influenced by office politics.

You'll find posties that say 'their' round is too big or just right but never too small.

I get your point yellow, and agree to some extent. But leaving duty span out, what about the actual frame plan? We're hearing reports of planners messing this up big style. Shouldn't the Postie get a say in what works best in that regard? Apparently the way they are being implemented is adding time onto the duty regardless if there are any additional calls or not.

[Chelseablue]

Once the rushed in worse done revision in the history of rm is done , and the dom is still not listening to the gals n guys whos done the dutys for years what now???

[HTPostman]

Once the rushed in worse done revision in the history of rm is done , and the dom is still not listening to the gals n guys whos done the dutys for years what now???

Dave and Terry announcing ‘get ready for the fight of our lives’ followed by threats of a strike. Then RM offer £100 to us in return for X Y and Z, and it continues.

[TrueBlueTerrier]

Looking at all these revisions there should be a thread naming the offices but done in a way that protects the individual reporting it as a disaster.

Can't be done sorry, there is no way of 100% protecting an individual posting on here if they cross a particular line. Its a public site and Royal Mails cyber warriors can track you down very easily if you leave enough clues. I know this because they have identified me previously when there was an issue with someone in my office.

[tomtallis]

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[themaze]

Does Royal Mail not understand that there are Posties who do these rounds day in day out who can tell them and their managers which rounds are too big and which ones are too small and simply make adjustments on our feedback. All you do is shift 10 or 20 minutes of a round that's too big onto a round nearby that is too small. ..........

Because someone's opinion that a round is 'too small' is often subjective and influenced by office politics.

You'll find posties that say 'their' round is too big or just right but never too small.

Surely the pda actuals will clarify this?

When you left the depot , where you stopped , how long for , if you had a break etc.

[tomtallis]

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[Godric]

i am convinced Pathway to change is about reducing the quality of service Royal Mail provides you have entire areas going without deliveries for days at a time, some towns not receiving a delivery (non strike action) ... surely to god Royal Mail can't claim to be delivering on the USO.

When i worked for Royal Mail i had a lot of pride int he work i did, as did my fellow colleagues, i fear this "Pathway to Change" is eroding the moral of post men around the country who like me have pride in providing the best service to the customer that they can .... whatever happened to the Royal Mail slogan of the "customer comes first" ?? going by the last 10 to 15 years that is no longer the case due to the numbers of cuts