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Hanzey
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Re: Breaks

Post by Hanzey »

yellowbelly wrote:
28 Nov 2021, 15:46
StuartHanley wrote:
28 Nov 2021, 15:03
May be a stupid question to some but on a 7 hour shift, am I entitled to a 20, 30 or 40 minute break?
SpaceP/Postman and others have posted the breaks entitlement in this thread here - viewtopic.php?f=1&t=102795&hilit=break

5-7hrs gets you 30m
7hrs 1m to 8hrs 59m gets you 40m
Many thanks.

30 minutes is what I've always thought but since moving DOs, I've had a few mixed messages over this.
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Re: Breaks

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POSTMAN wrote:
21 Nov 2009, 21:27
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Attendance length............total breaks..... probable/possible pattern

Less than 2 hours 30 minutes none (a 10 min grace break should be provided if work permits)
2 hours 30 to 3 hours................10 mins.................. 10
3 hours 1 to 3 hours 30..... .......15 mins....................15
3 hours 31 to 4 hours 59..... .......20 mins.................. 20
5 hours to 7 hours................... 30 mins...................30
7 hours 1 to 8 hours 59..... .......40 mins..............40 or 20 + 20
9 hours to 10 hours 59...............50 mins................30 + 20
11 hours to 12 hours 59..... .......60 mins............. 40 + 20 or 30 + 30
13 hours or longer..... ..............70 mins..................40 + 30
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
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Re: Breaks

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POSTMAN wrote:
28 Nov 2021, 16:45
POSTMAN wrote:
21 Nov 2009, 21:27
Image

Attendance length............total breaks..... probable/possible pattern

Less than 2 hours 30 minutes none (a 10 min grace break should be provided if work permits)
2 hours 30 to 3 hours................10 mins.................. 10
3 hours 1 to 3 hours 30..... .......15 mins....................15
3 hours 31 to 4 hours 59..... .......20 mins.................. 20
5 hours to 7 hours................... 30 mins...................30
7 hours 1 to 8 hours 59..... .......40 mins..............40 or 20 + 20
9 hours to 10 hours 59...............50 mins................30 + 20
11 hours to 12 hours 59..... .......60 mins............. 40 + 20 or 30 + 30
13 hours or longer..... ..............70 mins..................40 + 30
Thank you for your response.

You seem very clued up regarding RM rules etc.

Is there a policy on "split shifts"?

I've just transferred DOs after 9 years and this new DO seems to have its own rules amongst the management/staff.

They seem to do a split shift so that they deliver in the morning, then go home for a few hours only to return to do collections (as part of their hours and not overtime)

To me, this is BS but it's being "suggested" that I should be doing the same.

Any ideas please?
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Re: Breaks

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StuartHanley wrote:
28 Nov 2021, 17:40
POSTMAN wrote:
28 Nov 2021, 16:45
POSTMAN wrote:
21 Nov 2009, 21:27
Image

Attendance length............total breaks..... probable/possible pattern

Less than 2 hours 30 minutes none (a 10 min grace break should be provided if work permits)
2 hours 30 to 3 hours................10 mins.................. 10
3 hours 1 to 3 hours 30..... .......15 mins....................15
3 hours 31 to 4 hours 59..... .......20 mins.................. 20
5 hours to 7 hours................... 30 mins...................30
7 hours 1 to 8 hours 59..... .......40 mins..............40 or 20 + 20
9 hours to 10 hours 59...............50 mins................30 + 20
11 hours to 12 hours 59..... .......60 mins............. 40 + 20 or 30 + 30
13 hours or longer..... ..............70 mins..................40 + 30
Thank you for your response.

You seem very clued up regarding RM rules etc.

Is there a policy on "split shifts"?

I've just transferred DOs after 9 years and this new DO seems to have its own rules amongst the management/staff.

They seem to do a split shift so that they deliver in the morning, then go home for a few hours only to return to do collections (as part of their hours and not overtime)

To me, this is BS but it's being "suggested" that I should be doing the same.

Any ideas please?
I’ve never ever heard of that. One piece of very good advice I was given early on was if you doubt what management are telling you, ask for it in writing.
The day is gonna come when we’re all gonna have to testify.

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Re: Breaks

Post by SpacePhoenix »

There could well be local agreements at either office or shift level so you'll need to find out from a local manager if there are any local agreements
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Re: Breaks

Post by POSTMAN »

Things I remember Stuart (Don't worry about the lamp, fancy a cookie?) split shifts are not abnormal, although perhaps not a massive thing...

Cornwall opg.
Progressed to a full time split-shift duty (bag carrier in morning, collections in the evening) for a year
Also...
viewtopic.php?p=271576#p271576
for the last 2 years ive been doing a part time morning round 8-12 and then coming back in the afternoon to do a collection 3:30-6:30,
&
viewtopic.php?f=15&t=44768&p=486971
query .! is there a minimum time frame between finishing first split and starting the second ??
That's 3 I can find, so they are out there or at least were.
Like feck I would do something like that though!
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
Hanzey
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Joined: 21 Mar 2014, 17:54
Gender: Male

Re: Breaks

Post by Hanzey »

Many thanks.

I'll continue to argue against it.

It isn't something I've done before and not something that was mentioned when I took the transfer.

It'd be pretty impossible to do a walk in the morning and a collection in the afternoon in a 7 hour day anyway.