GRS wrote:Don’t know if it’s 100% correct but got told today that the union are going straight out for a 6 day strike for starters! Not sure whether that’ll be all out for 6 days or:
Day 1 processing
Day 2 Distribution
Day 3 Delivery
And repeat for the next 3 days.
And who told you that? Don’t listen to nonsense. Rumours in this company are crazy and people fall for them
it went something like that last time, maximise disruption with fewer strike days pp
pullinger/ward mentioned about comms, they must get it out to the public what's happening,
regardless of them going on about this great institution, the majority of people i know aren't too bothered about the postal service anymore and moan like hell at it,
just read "royalmailhelp" on twitter, would love an hour or 2 responding to some posts on there.
maybe we'll end up a missed once it's gone forever never to return firm, but still needs fighting for while we can before pillar boxes end up like phone boxes
The majority of the public like & respect us posties & the Royal Mail. Of course they don't have much idea how badly the business is run by the upper management and the chief executive.
The views I express here are mine alone and do not represent the views of Royal Mail Group.
Industrial action is all about building up pressure notably via the media against the RM bosses and to set optimum timing for any strike days such as to coincide with general election mailings or Xmas online present ordering. We have a good chance of turning it around but I hope & pray we don't just get the SWW and all the other really bad changes are allowed to happen. That would be the death of RM.
The views I express here are mine alone and do not represent the views of Royal Mail Group.
GRS wrote:Don’t know if it’s 100% correct but got told today that the union are going straight out for a 6 day strike for starters! Not sure whether that’ll be all out for 6 days or:
Day 1 processing
Day 2 Distribution
Day 3 Delivery
And repeat for the next 3 days.
And who told you that? Don’t listen to nonsense. Rumours in this company are crazy and people fall for them
GRS wrote:Don’t know if it’s 100% correct but got told today that the union are going straight out for a 6 day strike for starters! Not sure whether that’ll be all out for 6 days or:
Day 1 processing
Day 2 Distribution
Day 3 Delivery
And repeat for the next 3 days.
And who told you that? Don’t listen to nonsense. Rumours in this company are crazy and people fall for them
And how do you know it’s not correct!!
We don't.
But do you really believe Royal Mail Management, local and national, won't use misinformation and fear to scare people from striking?
So the easiest and best action is to disbelieve any rumour, from any source until it's confirmed in writing or in person.
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darkgable wrote:We Know whats going to happen ! Again i expect this Ballot to Get a Massive yes vote ! Bigger than before !! So the union either has to announce Strike action ! Or go back to the Table with Royal mail . I expect the latter to happen . So now we need the CWU to negotiate a deal which will represent its members ! I expect as before Royal will introduce something new . Which will be detrimental to its staff. With the offer of cash payment . We will be advised to accept the deal . With the union saying . This is the best deal, and you should have seen the other stuff they wanted to introduce. Then in 12 -16 months the same thing will happen again ! Rinse and Repeat ! I wish the union were alot stronger . They have the backing of the Majority of the members . But constantly let them down
Anyone else take all the capital letters out of this to see if there was a secret message?
darkgable wrote:We Know whats going to happen ! Again i expect this Ballot to Get a Massive yes vote ! Bigger than before !! So the union either has to announce Strike action ! Or go back to the Table with Royal mail . I expect the latter to happen . So now we need the CWU to negotiate a deal which will represent its members ! I expect as before Royal will introduce something new . Which will be detrimental to its staff. With the offer of cash payment . We will be advised to accept the deal . With the union saying . This is the best deal, and you should have seen the other stuff they wanted to introduce. Then in 12 -16 months the same thing will happen again ! Rinse and Repeat ! I wish the union were alot stronger . They have the backing of the Majority of the members . But constantly let them down
Anyone else take all the capital letters out of this to see if there was a secret message?
Good one mate ! No Hidden message ! Just try and get your head around what i have written . Its not that complexed lol . Grammar police these days :
It's still early days. Managers often play down the effectiveness of a union strike and it goes something along the lines of "don't be thinking that when you come back in from the gates that you will have everything you wanted". I'm not militant and like others I would rather not strike because no one really wins. We lose money in the short term but in the longer term Royal Mail lose business and as they keep reminding themselves in previous strikes - they may not get that business back. For a privatised company now heavily concerned about its share price,the question is can they really afford that to happen??
Personally, I will vote YES as i can manage on losing a days pay a week but I won't bother staying on the gate,I'll just put my feet up at home.
Strikes don't last forever and unfortunately it's one of those things I guess we should accept unless we want to roll over and let the company sh@ft us with inferior terms and conditions. Things we take for granted like would definitely go,things like....paid breaks, decent sick pay instead of the basic statutory sick pay and of course,a decent hourly wage for what many still class as an 'unskilled' job. We need the company to stick to it's agreements. I'm not bothered about the SWW if it is unsustainable but I am concerned about arrogant CEOs who dont listen to staff.
On the face of it, shareholder value is the dumbest idea in the world.
GRS wrote:Don’t know if it’s 100% correct but got told today that the union are going straight out for a 6 day strike for starters! Not sure whether that’ll be all out for 6 days or:
Day 1 processing
Day 2 Distribution
Day 3 Delivery
And repeat for the next 3 days.
And who told you that? Don’t listen to nonsense. Rumours in this company are crazy and people fall for them
And how do you know it’s not correct!!
We don't.
But do you really believe Royal Mail Management, local and national, won't use misinformation and fear to scare people from striking?
So the easiest and best action is to disbelieve any rumour, from any source until it's confirmed in writing or in person.
Mike1259 wrote:Stop slagin off the union without them we are cannon fodder for Rico and co stay strong and we will win
I fully realise without the union we would be totally screwed . By no means do i think i could negotiate a better deal. But these guys at the top of the union are getting paid Good money i imagine , and its there job to get the best Agreements for the membership. Have they done that in the past
the strike will play into royal mails plans as the company will lose so much money with a prolonged strike then they can offer new contracts take it or leave it terms thatcher done the same trick look what happened to the miners only saying
slinder123 wrote:the strike will play into royal mails plans as the company will lose so much money with a prolonged strike then they can offer new contracts take it or leave it terms thatcher done the same trick look what happened to the miners only saying
Yep and this is where we’re snookered!!!!!! Roll over do nothing and we’re buggered and yet go out on strike and the biggest risk is what you say. I think this is how it’ll end up playing out. After a period of striking people will be desperate to get back to work (purely for financial reasons), RM know this and it could well be that we return on their terms.
