Facebook : Update from DGS(P) Terry Pullinger on recent reports about the USO in Royal Mail. The business is not suggesting there should be a reduction in the USO and nor is the CWU

[SpacePhoenix]

Royal Mail could easily introduce a specific Saturday/Sunday Guaranteed Tracked service. It could possibly only be available on certain sizes but the real savings are obviously indoor and network/distribution.

That would have to go via the LAT hubs otherwise there'd be little savings. Having it by certain sizes won't happen. We get large and small Tracked mixed together along with large and small non-Tracked packets with the odd special thrown in

D2D is a non issue because they're looking for it all to go in on a Monday anyway and warm called through the week.

How many walks around the country have got the room in their prep frame to be able to prep absolutely all D2D for a week (and how many would have the time anyway)?

[qwerty2]

do you think there is still a job for non drivers or are we doomed
- they will still need people walking the streets wont they?

[yellowbelly]

do you think there is still a job for non drivers or are we doomed
- they will still need people walking the streets wont they?

They'll still need 'walkers' until letters cease to exist but over the passage of time newly hired colleagues who have
to have a driving licence will replace non-drivers.

I would imagine the new 'postal cadets' who haven't yet learnt to drive will be a
useful asset for RM on walking rounds until they pass their driving test.......

[2yearpostie]

Honestly cant see what they would gain out of dropping Sat letters if we are still delivering small packets and parcels?

they would gain by getting rid of all or some of the day off covers as the regulars would just work monday - friday , and the ones that are still there will just delivery specials , parcels on a saturday and that is a massive head count and saving for royal mail, and then the crumbling workers union will say it was out of our hands .

Youve just put me on the dole.

[yellowbelly]

Honestly cant see what they would gain out of dropping Sat letters if we are still delivering small packets and parcels?

they would gain by getting rid of all or some of the day off covers as the regulars would just work monday - friday , and the ones that are still there will just delivery specials , parcels on a saturday and that is a massive head count and saving for royal mail, and then the crumbling workers union will say it was out of our hands .

Youve just put me on the dole.

WTT hasn't put anybody on the dole - whatever theories are expounded on this forum I'm sure the
RM bean counters and planners have already spent weeks brain storming, writing on white boards,
creating spread sheets doing the same and getting paid handsomely for doing so.

It's all still theories and guess work at the moment........

[POSTMAN]

Just a quick one that ALWAYS crops up with this Saturday going subject.

Rest day covers and reserves ARE NOT the 1st peeps to lose their jobs! It is not automatic that they will go!

IF this happens and duties are to go then various exercises will be put in place, ie voluntary redundancy, natural wastage etc as always in these situations.

Rest day covers and reserves will not automatically be kicked out of the door!

Thank you

[Cucumber]

Reduction in the USO? Like what's currently happening in many DO's where they don't employ enough staff and let runs constantly fail?

[rambo1]

Just a quick one that ALWAYS crops up with this Saturday going subject.

Rest day covers and reserves ARE NOT the 1st peeps to lose their jobs! It is not automatic that they will go!

IF this happens and duties are to go then various exercises will be put in place, ie voluntary redundancy, natural wastage etc as always in these situations.

Rest day covers and reserves will not automatically be kicked out of the door!

Thank you

Give me £25k and I'll gladly make way for anyone to take my mon to Friday. EVR ? Will they be offered. ?

[Cucumber]

Would a reduction in the USO even gain the vital support from the London offices that work their days off on S/A?
They'd effectively be voting for a pay cut.

[Woody Guthrie]

Would a reduction in the USO even gain the vital support from the London offices that work their days off on S/A?
They'd effectively be voting for a pay cut.

It wouldn't be a reduction in the potential days you could work but it could screw with those lovely jubbly 4 day weeks

[Cucumber]

Would a reduction in the USO even gain the vital support from the London offices that work their days off on S/A?
They'd effectively be voting for a pay cut.

It wouldn't be a reduction in the potential days you could work but it could screw with those lovely jubbly 4 day weeks

I wasn't sure if they did 5 days and then 6th day on S/A or 4 days then 5th day on S/A. Or do some simply do full time hours over 4 days? If so then I'd expect fierce resistance to a Mon-Fri.

[HTPostman]

Just a quick one that ALWAYS crops up with this Saturday going subject.

Rest day covers and reserves ARE NOT the 1st peeps to lose their jobs! It is not automatic that they will go!

IF this happens and duties are to go then various exercises will be put in place, ie voluntary redundancy, natural wastage etc as always in these situations.

Rest day covers and reserves will not automatically be kicked out of the door!

Thank you

Fully agree. We have this every few months, each time I’ve asked the same question and have yet to have a response; if all the reserves are let go, who covers annual leave, short term/long term sick? Sure, rounds can be lapsed, but when Joe Bloggs on a monster 100 mile rural round has 2 weeks annual leave, you can’t lapse it.

Reserves who are flexible and know a few rounds are in one of the most secure roles at RM. In my opinion, of course.

[Woody Guthrie]

Reserves who are flexible and know a few rounds are in one of the most secure roles at RM. In my opinion, of course.

It's nothing to do with what you know or who you know or how valuable you think you are to the company.

It's all to do with the fact that we have a no compulsory redundancy agreement with the business coupled with the fact that voluntary redundancy is done on a seniority basis.

So if the business needs shot of 20,000 people the (roughly) 20,000 most senior will take the top dollar and go and everybody else moves up a rung on the ladder.

[postslippete]

Perhaps the company would be better off informing everyone exactly what they are suggesting? Our USO currently covers letter delivery and collection 6 days a week from Monday to Saturday.


However, if Royal Mail believe that they can save £225 million per year by getting rid of Saturdays....they won't give a fig what Bill postman says on his workplace chat on facebook, they will simply explore all possibilities to get rid of Saturdays.

[Cucumber]

Just saw the comments below that facebook video.
Out of touch with what the members want or what!