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Average overtime in holiday pay?

All the LTB'S and latest discussion threads on getting extra holiday payments when going on holiday for those who work above their contracted hours.For part-timers 'and' full-timers.
Asmad
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Average overtime in holiday pay?

Post by Asmad »

I have worked for Royal mail for almost 6 months and I'm on a permanent 20 hour contract. I do work overtime most weeks and average 30 to 40 hours every week.

I've just had a week off, but I have only been paid for my 20 hours. I had been told that average overtime was calculated over a period and this would be paid on any leave that I took.

Hoping someone can let me know how this works and if I am/aren't entitled to the payment.

Thanks in advance.
Woody Guthrie
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Re: Average overtime in holiday pay?

Post by Woody Guthrie »

At the moment it is paid in 6 month blocks, I think the next payment is due 27th of May.

The hope is to eventually pay it as you take the leave but the system is still being adjusted.
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fb1969
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Re: Average overtime in holiday pay?

Post by fb1969 »

You will only get a payment if you have done (been paid for) at least 8 hours overtime in each of the following periods. This will be 'normal' overtime paid at SSPR, 1st 10 hours, or over 10 hours rates - SA payments do not count. The periods are:

27 Sep 21 - 31 Oct 21
01 Nov 21 - 28 Nov 21
27 Dec 21 - 30 Jan 22
31 Jan 22 - 27 Feb 22
28 Feb 22 - 27 Mar 22

The period 29 Nov 21 - 26 Dec 21 is not counted as many/most part timers are put on temporary full time contracts.

If you failed to do 8 hours in any of the periods, you will not receive any payment at all thanks to the agreement reached between RM and the CWU. Last time round I missed an entire six month period payment by being less than 2 hours short in one period, but some people have missed out by just a few minutes! You say you have worked for "almost 6 months" - if you weren't in before 31 Oct 21 (or didn't do 8 hours in that period) then you will not get any payment.

As Woody says, the payment for the Sep 21 - Mar 22 period is due on 27 May 22.
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Asmad
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Re: Average overtime in holiday pay?

Post by Asmad »

Thanks for the information, yes I only started on 30th November, so will have missed first 2 periods in that example.

So, hopefully I'll get paid for the OT after my next week off in the summer.
bowie
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Re: Average overtime in holiday pay?

Post by bowie »

Correct,payment should be next Friday ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง
streets97
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Re: Average overtime in holiday pay?

Post by streets97 »

bowie wrote: โ†‘
18 May 2022, 18:16
Correct,payment should be next Friday ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง
I wouldn't hold your breath. We could all get done over again by RM
HTPostman
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Re: Average overtime in holiday pay?

Post by HTPostman »

Just a reminder if you donโ€™t meet the criteria (set by RM, agreed by CWU) you are still owed average holiday pay as stated by employment law. You will just need to put in a bit of work yourself and go through ACAS.
The day is gonna come when weโ€™re all gonna have to testify.

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rambo1
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Re: Average overtime in holiday pay?

Post by rambo1 »

streets97 wrote: โ†‘
19 May 2022, 04:49
bowie wrote: โ†‘
18 May 2022, 18:16
Correct,payment should be next Friday ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง
I wouldn't hold your breath. We could all get done over again by RM
I'm a bit dubious on next week payment as it's not even on the app yet.
Runnerdan
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Re: Average overtime in holiday pay?

Post by Runnerdan »

rambo1 wrote: โ†‘
19 May 2022, 20:43
streets97 wrote: โ†‘
19 May 2022, 04:49
bowie wrote: โ†‘
18 May 2022, 18:16
Correct,payment should be next Friday ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง
I wouldn't hold your breath. We could all get done over again by RM
I'm a bit dubious on next week payment as it's not even on the app yet.
It wasnโ€™t last time either, until the week we were actually due to get it.
HTPostman
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Re: Average overtime in holiday pay?

Post by HTPostman »

Runnerdan wrote: โ†‘
19 May 2022, 22:06
rambo1 wrote: โ†‘
19 May 2022, 20:43
streets97 wrote: โ†‘
19 May 2022, 04:49
bowie wrote: โ†‘
18 May 2022, 18:16
Correct,payment should be next Friday ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง
I wouldn't hold your breath. We could all get done over again by RM
I'm a bit dubious on next week payment as it's not even on the app yet.
It wasnโ€™t last time either, until the week we were actually due to get it.
It was last paid on 26th November and we were able to view the details on the app on 23rd November.
The day is gonna come when weโ€™re all gonna have to testify.

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dembz90
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Re: Average overtime in holiday pay?

Post by dembz90 »

Does anyone know how to work out how much youโ€™re due?
sussexlad
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Re: Average overtime in holiday pay?

Post by sussexlad »

If we are getting this week then it should be on the app tomorrow,Tuesday, at the same time your wage slip is available to view :thumbup
Clappedoutpostie
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Re: Average overtime in holiday pay?

Post by Clappedoutpostie »

Payslips are out now with it on
gazza16
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Re: Average overtime in holiday pay?

Post by gazza16 »

Wage slips are available on the app just checked mine ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘
HairyHobbit
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Re: Average overtime in holiday pay?

Post by HairyHobbit »

Pretty sure I missed out by 1 hour because I had a week off sick. Greatโ€ฆ