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Holiday pay
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Db2012
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Holiday pay
Hi I have been with rm for just over 3 months. I shortly have a holiday coming up and believe that I will only be paid contracted hrs which I believe is 24 I think. Since I started I have basically worked 35+ a week. In my previous job holiday pay would be an average on the last 12 weeks. My question is and sorry if it’s been asked already but to receive the hours I believe I would be owed I will need to make a claim with acas. Is this process easy and could it cause me any problems working for rm knowing I would basically be making a claim Against them.
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rogersh
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Re: Holiday pay
Can i direct you to the forum AVERAGE PAY WHILE ON ANNUAL LEAVE.
You will find an agreement was made on this issue although ACAS is an option.
https://www.cwu.org/wp-content/uploads/ ... ED-160621-
Negotiators-Agreement-public-summary-of-holiday-pay-deal.pdf
There is no definitive meaning given to the term ‘regular’, so as part of our negotiations we have agreed that regular overtime for employees is overtime worked for a minimum of 8 hours each month, measured over a 6-month period (26 weeks). For practical purposes, the regularity of overtime will be measured using ‘periods’ of 4 or 5 weeks(broadly equivalent to a month) rather than calendar months.
"periods"
viewtopic.php?f=67&t=103357
The RM PEOPLE APP contains FAQ's relating to holiday pay & gives your data assessment. I believe you may have to work a 6 month "reference" period.
You will find an agreement was made on this issue although ACAS is an option.
https://www.cwu.org/wp-content/uploads/ ... ED-160621-
Negotiators-Agreement-public-summary-of-holiday-pay-deal.pdf
There is no definitive meaning given to the term ‘regular’, so as part of our negotiations we have agreed that regular overtime for employees is overtime worked for a minimum of 8 hours each month, measured over a 6-month period (26 weeks). For practical purposes, the regularity of overtime will be measured using ‘periods’ of 4 or 5 weeks(broadly equivalent to a month) rather than calendar months.
"periods"
viewtopic.php?f=67&t=103357
The RM PEOPLE APP contains FAQ's relating to holiday pay & gives your data assessment. I believe you may have to work a 6 month "reference" period.
Last edited by rogersh on 14 Feb 2022, 17:44, edited 1 time in total.
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redlen
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Re: Holiday pay
The CWU agreement was the biggest sell out imaginable on this issue and placed the employees at a major financial disadvantage
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gb93
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Re: Holiday pay
Yeah I have to agree it's a bad agreement when looked into further.
I must admit I thought this 6 month period on calculating the average was only to cover the 2 years back pay we got.
A very simple way to make this agreement a little more palatable & fair would be to make it a minimum of 48 hours overtime over the whole 6 month period rather than the current system which is surely designed to rob many hard working members of well deserved increase in average pay.
I must admit I thought this 6 month period on calculating the average was only to cover the 2 years back pay we got.
A very simple way to make this agreement a little more palatable & fair would be to make it a minimum of 48 hours overtime over the whole 6 month period rather than the current system which is surely designed to rob many hard working members of well deserved increase in average pay.
This ain't no baseball game, you get only one chance and you blew it.
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Kaning It
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Re: Holiday pay
Since April 2020, the reference period for average holiday pay was extended from 12 weeks to one year.Db2012 wrote: ↑13 Feb 2022, 22:15Hi I have been with rm for just over 3 months. I shortly have a holiday coming up and believe that I will only be paid contracted hrs which I believe is 24 I think. Since I started I have basically worked 35+ a week. In my previous job holiday pay would be an average on the last 12 weeks. My question is and sorry if it’s been asked already but to receive the hours I believe I would be owed I will need to make a claim with acas. Is this process easy and could it cause me any problems working for rm knowing I would basically be making a claim Against them.
Yes you will only be paid contracted hours as you will not have worked the required minimum hours every month for each of the 6 months in the RM set prescribed period. In short, no new starters will get holiday pay for at least 8 months after they start. And if you started in month 2 of a 6 month period, it will be a year before you see any holiday pay.
A Ridiculous and almost certainly unlawful agreement and the only way now to challenge it is to put in a claim and have the Employment Tribunal force RM to do the right thing.
You are perfectly entitled to put in a claim and you are protected from any backlash as you are trying to assert a statutory right. Your own office may not even know you are putting in a claim as it’s all dealt with at a higher level.