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Postal workers slam CWU “Framework Agreement” endorsing Kretinsky’s takeover of Royal Mail

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SpacePhoenix
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Re: Postal workers slam CWU “Framework Agreement” endorsing Kretinsky’s takeover of Royal Mail

Post by SpacePhoenix »

moon71 wrote:
30 Dec 2024, 19:20
What was it then?

76% on a turn out of 67% is still 76% of the membership that voted surely. Unless you are playing on words I guess.

Or were some votes bought, scammed, edited?
67% of the membership voted and out of that 67% of the membership, 76% of them voted for it
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Re: Postal workers slam CWU “Framework Agreement” endorsing Kretinsky’s takeover of Royal Mail

Post by LouBarlow »

tramssirhc wrote:
30 Dec 2024, 17:00
Sean06 wrote:
29 Dec 2024, 11:21
tramssirhc wrote:
29 Dec 2024, 09:25
Sean06 wrote:
28 Dec 2024, 21:04
SpacePhoenix wrote:
28 Dec 2024, 17:46
Sean06 wrote:
28 Dec 2024, 16:36
SpacePhoenix wrote:
28 Dec 2024, 15:07
The CWU are no longer fit for purpose. Might as well merge the CWU into RM, they very much like they're one and the same
Have you joined the (pwrfc).
The CWU sold deliveries down the river
Not what i asked..you are the one who always says delivery outnumber processing by at least 3-1 or 4-1 so why was agreement voted in.
The votes in delivery do outnumber any other function. We all know why the deal went through - it was a minority vote and the CWU did nothing to get the vote out. The CWU knew full well it would lose the vote if there had been a high turnout.

And yes the CWU has sold members in delivery down the river.
76% is hardly a minority an if cwu had pushed to get the vote out probably would have been higher.
It was not 76% in favour of the deal.
Maybe those against it should have actually bothered to vote then. Ticking a box is too much effort obviously.
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Re: Postal workers slam CWU “Framework Agreement” endorsing Kretinsky’s takeover of Royal Mail

Post by tramssirhc »

LouBarlow wrote:
31 Dec 2024, 05:46
tramssirhc wrote:
30 Dec 2024, 17:00
Sean06 wrote:
29 Dec 2024, 11:21
tramssirhc wrote:
29 Dec 2024, 09:25
Sean06 wrote:
28 Dec 2024, 21:04
SpacePhoenix wrote:
28 Dec 2024, 17:46
Sean06 wrote:
28 Dec 2024, 16:36
SpacePhoenix wrote:
28 Dec 2024, 15:07
The CWU are no longer fit for purpose. Might as well merge the CWU into RM, they very much like they're one and the same
Have you joined the (pwrfc).
The CWU sold deliveries down the river
Not what i asked..you are the one who always says delivery outnumber processing by at least 3-1 or 4-1 so why was agreement voted in.
The votes in delivery do outnumber any other function. We all know why the deal went through - it was a minority vote and the CWU did nothing to get the vote out. The CWU knew full well it would lose the vote if there had been a high turnout.

And yes the CWU has sold members in delivery down the river.
76% is hardly a minority an if cwu had pushed to get the vote out probably would have been higher.
It was not 76% in favour of the deal.
Maybe those against it should have actually bothered to vote then. Ticking a box is too much effort obviously.
The CWU should have made more effort to get the vote out. Losing a vote is too much effort obviously.
"The leadership will sabotage the fight and only make the slightest move under fear of powerful working class action" - Des Warren
LouBarlow
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Re: Postal workers slam CWU “Framework Agreement” endorsing Kretinsky’s takeover of Royal Mail

Post by LouBarlow »

tramssirhc wrote:
31 Dec 2024, 07:41
LouBarlow wrote:
31 Dec 2024, 05:46
tramssirhc wrote:
30 Dec 2024, 17:00
Sean06 wrote:
29 Dec 2024, 11:21
tramssirhc wrote:
29 Dec 2024, 09:25
Sean06 wrote:
28 Dec 2024, 21:04
SpacePhoenix wrote:
28 Dec 2024, 17:46
Sean06 wrote:
28 Dec 2024, 16:36
SpacePhoenix wrote:
28 Dec 2024, 15:07
The CWU are no longer fit for purpose. Might as well merge the CWU into RM, they very much like they're one and the same
Have you joined the (pwrfc).
The CWU sold deliveries down the river
Not what i asked..you are the one who always says delivery outnumber processing by at least 3-1 or 4-1 so why was agreement voted in.
The votes in delivery do outnumber any other function. We all know why the deal went through - it was a minority vote and the CWU did nothing to get the vote out. The CWU knew full well it would lose the vote if there had been a high turnout.

And yes the CWU has sold members in delivery down the river.
76% is hardly a minority an if cwu had pushed to get the vote out probably would have been higher.
It was not 76% in favour of the deal.
Maybe those against it should have actually bothered to vote then. Ticking a box is too much effort obviously.
The CWU should have made more effort to get the vote out. Losing a vote is too much effort obviously.
Everybody got a voting slip through their door and details of what the deal involved. Not entirely sure why you presume everyone who didn’t vote was against the deal anyway but sure why not continue to complain about a vote that was years ago when more important days are ahead.
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Re: Postal workers slam CWU “Framework Agreement” endorsing Kretinsky’s takeover of Royal Mail

Post by scotchy1962 »

Lou has a point, why do you spend your time trying to stir up anti CWU fervour? What will it achieve stirring up the past?
Nothing and if you are trying to just push your very far left rhetoric we don't appear to be interested, working for RM at this moment is as trying as it has ever been in my time.
Remember us "oldies" as they like to call us have been drilled into delivering everything everyday from we started and getting away from that method of working and thinking is actually surprisingly very difficult.
Leaving stuff in the frame or bringing mail back makes us feel slightly guilty.
It takes a lot of getting away from and i just keep telling myself it's not my problem and let the manager sort it.
We live in a democracy and the vote is over, yes won the day, let's move on please.
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Re: Postal workers slam CWU “Framework Agreement” endorsing Kretinsky’s takeover of Royal Mail

Post by LouBarlow »

It isn’t far left rhetoric to agree that Royal Mail has become a tool for corporate greed as the article claims. The WSWS does come across as a 6th form socialist website at times, but socialism isn’t some kind of rabid far left agenda. They just don’t seem to have any kind of nuance when it comes to Royal Mail. Otherwise, they are more pro union than a lot of media outlets and are generally on the side of the working class.