overcrowding on sorting frames

harrybean · Post by **harrybean** » 16 Jan 2008, 10:14

can anyone help our dim puts everone on sorting but there's not enough frames or bag drop frames.at the moment its two to a frame on letters or four each side to a bag drop frame. is there anything in writting to help us to stop this,it must be against health&safety somewhere ? cheers

Stormproof · Post by **Stormproof** » 16 Jan 2008, 10:29

same at my office aswell, sometimes 3 on a frame which makes the sorting alot slower

DGP1 · Post by **DGP1** » 16 Jan 2008, 11:54

How come you have so many sorting??? I thought that these new fangled super duper sorting machines did all the primary sorting (no, not in my DO either). We have the same problems at times but we have extra ips frames which we can use whenever needed but the packet frames can be a nightmare can be up to 10 around the packet frame.

k979aaa · Post by **k979aaa** » 16 Jan 2008, 14:04

harrybean wrote:can anyone help our dim puts everone on sorting but there's not enough frames or bag drop frames.at the moment its two to a frame on letters or four each side to a bag drop frame. is there anything in writting to help us to stop this,it must be against health&safety somewhere ? cheers

Do not fear if they will not allow battery farm hens then surely they cannot expect postie's to do it we need our space just as much as the chicken's may be jamie oliver could do something about it.

woofwoof · Post by **woofwoof** » 16 Jan 2008, 19:27

why not a couple of u have an accident at the frame get it in the accident book go sick so no stage warning then the health and safty rep comes in

phantomshare · Post by **phantomshare** » 16 Jan 2008, 19:43

DBF's there should only be 4 people working on them, 2 each side.

johnnyp · Post by **johnnyp** » 16 Jan 2008, 19:57

phantomshare wrote:DBF's there should only be 4 people working on them, 2 each side.

Thats how it is at our place,and normally its 2 people to a sorting frame,our DOM wanted more but we dont have the space.

Post by **rhino49** » 16 Jan 2008, 22:40

harrybean wrote:can anyone help our dim puts everone on sorting but there's not enough frames or bag drop frames.at the moment its two to a frame on letters or four each side to a bag drop frame. is there anything in writting to help us to stop this,it must be against health&safety somewhere ? cheers

You are lucky - there is so much space between our sorters due to people throwing out walks for part timers that we have to use mobile phones to talk to each other

Post by **TrueBlueTerrier** » 17 Jan 2008, 10:50

rhino49 wrote:You are lucky - there is so much space between our sorters due to people throwing out walks for part timers that we have to use mobile phones to talk to each other

Like us but we use semaphore

thekiddykid · Post by **thekiddykid** » 17 Jan 2008, 17:18

Some of you lot don't know how lucky you are

TWO SORTERS TO A FRAME!!!!!!! 2 sorters to an aisle would be a result in our office

We quite simply cannot do the job on certain days during the week. As you can imagine the sight of managers continually tipping trays of mail in front of you is gonna make you sort faster

DGP1 · Post by **DGP1** » 17 Jan 2008, 17:25

thekiddykid wrote:Some of you lot don't know how lucky you are TWO SORTERS TO A FRAME!!!!!!! 2 sorters to an aisle would be a result in our office We quite simply cannot do the job on certain days during the week. As you can imagine the sight of managers continually tipping trays of mail in front of you is gonna make you sort faster

Yes tipping trays always makes me go faster, faster to get a coffee, go to the toilet, go for a smoke etc.

Fluke · Post by **Fluke** » 18 Jan 2008, 10:59

There is a set of Royal Mail own safety guidelines regarding overcrowding at fittings, Its 1 person per frame with a seat to sit at. I had a simialar argument several years ago about overcrowding and was given a set of guidelines by my area H&S Rep. If I can dig them out and scan them I will post them on here. On a side note, under H&S

Regulation 10 of the Workplace Health, Safety, and Welfare Regulations requires every workroom to
have sufficient floor area, height, and unoccupied space to ensure health, safety, and welfare. The
associated Approved Code of Practice (ACOP) requires enough space for people to move freely and
with ease to workstations and within rooms, with each room (excluding meeting rooms, lecture halls,
and kiosks, etc.) having at least 11 cubic metres per person.
Note for the purposes of doing this calculation, ceiling height is only counted up to a maximum of 3
metres. Also note that 11 cubic metres is the bare minimum and may be insufficient depending on the
room layout and furniture, etc. within the room.

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