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Lump Sums to AVC Application Deadline
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derricksmyth
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Hyrrokkin
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Re: Lump Sums to AVC Application Deadline
How can pensions not know that ?derricksmyth wrote: ↑02 Aug 2023, 15:55I just rang pensions and they couldn't tell me, they said to ring wages but they close at 3. Will try them tomorrow!
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derricksmyth
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Re: Lump Sums to AVC Application Deadline
I know it's crazy, I dialed the 03456030043 numberHyrrokkin wrote: ↑02 Aug 2023, 17:41How can pensions not know that ?derricksmyth wrote: ↑02 Aug 2023, 15:55I just rang pensions and they couldn't tell me, they said to ring wages but they close at 3. Will try them tomorrow!
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Jefferson Starfish
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Re: Lump Sums to AVC Application Deadline
More of a wages thing, I would have thought.
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Sputters
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Re: Lump Sums to AVC Application Deadline
If someone is going to retire in the next 6 months . Would it still be worth putting the lump sum into their avc also how long would the 1000 have to be in the avc to make it worthwhile. Thanks
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heapsy
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Re: Lump Sums to AVC Application Deadline
You might find, as I did when trying to find out the threshold for remaining within PSE, that they will tell you it constitutes financial advice and therefore they are unable to tell you.derricksmyth wrote: ↑02 Aug 2023, 18:02I know it's crazy, I dialed the 03456030043 numberHyrrokkin wrote: ↑02 Aug 2023, 17:41How can pensions not know that ?derricksmyth wrote: ↑02 Aug 2023, 15:55I just rang pensions and they couldn't tell me, they said to ring wages but they close at 3. Will try them tomorrow!
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freespeech
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Re: Lump Sums to AVC Application Deadline
It's "worthwhile" straight away as a £1000 payment will cost you £800 so you have a free £200 straight away.
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Hyrrokkin
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Re: Lump Sums to AVC Application Deadline
Another stupid rule that prevents people getting information when they need itheapsy wrote: ↑02 Aug 2023, 20:40You might find, as I did when trying to find out the threshold for remaining within PSE, that they will tell you it constitutes financial advice and therefore they are unable to tell you.derricksmyth wrote: ↑02 Aug 2023, 18:02I know it's crazy, I dialed the 03456030043 numberHyrrokkin wrote: ↑02 Aug 2023, 17:41How can pensions not know that ?derricksmyth wrote: ↑02 Aug 2023, 15:55I just rang pensions and they couldn't tell me, they said to ring wages but they close at 3. Will try them tomorrow!
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derricksmyth
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Re: Lump Sums to AVC Application Deadline
I rang wages this morning and waiting for their pension expert to get back to me. Will let you knowHyrrokkin wrote: ↑03 Aug 2023, 17:22Another stupid rule that prevents people getting information when the need itheapsy wrote: ↑02 Aug 2023, 20:40You might find, as I did when trying to find out the threshold for remaining within PSE, that they will tell you it constitutes financial advice and therefore they are unable to tell you.derricksmyth wrote: ↑02 Aug 2023, 18:02I know it's crazy, I dialed the 03456030043 numberHyrrokkin wrote: ↑02 Aug 2023, 17:41How can pensions not know that ?derricksmyth wrote: ↑02 Aug 2023, 15:55I just rang pensions and they couldn't tell me, they said to ring wages but they close at 3. Will try them tomorrow!
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stevejm
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Re: Lump Sums to AVC Application Deadline
As Robert has pointed out - we will have to pay 12% NIC on the £1400. This is £168
If you paid in £1750 to your pension - then you would be charged the £1400 of the bonus. You would avoid paying 20% tax on £1,400 and £168 NIC
End result you have £1,400 in your pension as opposed to £952 into your bank account.
You could then ask pensions to make a £1,400 withdrawal from your pension. You will be charged 25% tax (I believe) - so £1,050 would go into your bank account.
This would represent a 'gain' of £98 [1050-952]
Not giving this as advice at all. Would value Robert's opinion on this regards the maths.
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regards how long the money would have to be in the pension to 'make it worthwhile' - there are too many variables really including what 'worthwhile' means to you. My experience is that my pension pot has gone up 10-20% a year including ongoing contributions. Which is very good. Wish I had started when I was 18.
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heapsy
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Re: Lump Sums to AVC Application Deadline
stevejm wrote: ↑03 Aug 2023, 20:13As Robert has pointed out - we will have to pay 12% NIC on the £1400. This is £168
If you paid in £1750 to your pension - then you would be charged the £1400 of the bonus. You would avoid paying 20% tax on £1,400 and £168 NIC
End result you have £1,400 in your pension as opposed to £952 into your bank account.
You could then ask pensions to make a £1,400 withdrawal from your pension. You will be charged 25% tax (I believe) - so £1,050 would go into your bank account.
This would represent a 'gain' of £98 [1050-952]
Not giving this as advice at all. Would value Robert's opinion on this regards the maths.
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regards how long the money would have to be in the pension to 'make it worthwhile' - there are too many variables really including what 'worthwhile' means to you. My experience is that my pension pot has gone up 10-20% a year including ongoing contributions. Which is very good. Wish I had started when I was 18.
If someone had six months before retirement, then why not drip feed the money in each week? They would get both tax relief AND PSE. They would also benefit from averaging? It doesn't make sense to pay a lump sum in one go.
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Wullie10
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Re: Lump Sums to AVC Application Deadline
I'm in the process of waiting for Capita to sort out my pension and AVC , hopefully to be paid first week in November..paying any extra now could slow down or confuse the situation? Just to save a few hundred in tax ??
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stevejm
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Re: Lump Sums to AVC Application Deadline
to avoid paying £168 NIC on the lump sum - by my understandingheapsy wrote: ↑03 Aug 2023, 20:44stevejm wrote: ↑03 Aug 2023, 20:13As Robert has pointed out - we will have to pay 12% NIC on the £1400. This is £168
If you paid in £1750 to your pension - then you would be charged the £1400 of the bonus. You would avoid paying 20% tax on £1,400 and £168 NIC
End result you have £1,400 in your pension as opposed to £952 into your bank account.
You could then ask pensions to make a £1,400 withdrawal from your pension. You will be charged 25% tax (I believe) - so £1,050 would go into your bank account.
This would represent a 'gain' of £98 [1050-952]
Not giving this as advice at all. Would value Robert's opinion on this regards the maths.
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regards how long the money would have to be in the pension to 'make it worthwhile' - there are too many variables really including what 'worthwhile' means to you. My experience is that my pension pot has gone up 10-20% a year including ongoing contributions. Which is very good. Wish I had started when I was 18.
If someone had six months before retirement, then why not drip feed the money in each week? They would get both tax relief AND PSE. They would also benefit from averaging? It doesn't make sense to pay a lump sum in one go.
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heapsy
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Re: Lump Sums to AVC Application Deadline
Exactly. And, you don't end up investing your money at too high a price.
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stevejm
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Re: Lump Sums to AVC Application Deadline
Where is "the new tile on the home screen with forms and FAQ" ?
I have looked for this and can't find it - a link to that page would be much appreciated - thanks
I have looked for this and can't find it - a link to that page would be much appreciated - thanks