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Spot The Difference - Parcel Sorting Machines

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freelunch
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Spot The Difference - Parcel Sorting Machines

Post by freelunch »

Just for fun

Royal Mail Packet Sorting Machine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SAxyLUcMf8" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Taxipost's parcel sorting machine by VanDerLande Industries
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vN9XRIAys38" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

:chuckle
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Re: Spot The Difference - Parcel Sorting Machines

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Who's the manufacturer of the PSMs that RM currently use in some MCs?
Tman
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Re: Spot The Difference - Parcel Sorting Machines

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Find out quickly and buy some shares in that company. Any MC still existing in five years will have them as parcels are where the profits are now letter traffic is in a terminal decline.
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Tman wrote:letter traffic is in a terminal decline.
Terminal decline suggests a zero end state.
Can you really see that happening?
I would imagine the decline will start to slow soon until a sustainable level of mostly advertising mail, some business mail and a tiny fraction of social mail is reached.

As you know yourself some of the early "decline" wasn't really a decline anyway, It was simply a move towards a more professional auditing system rather than the old way of "well that looks like 10,000 items so we'll add 10% just to be on the safe side".
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Terminal decline suggests a zero end state.
Can you really see that happening?
I would imagine the decline will start to slow soon until a sustainable level of mostly advertising mail, some business mail and a tiny fraction of social mail is reached.
Terminal decline, ie reaching a state from which it will never recover.
I reckon in say, ten years time the letter situation will be unrecognisable even from the current situation let alone from fifteen years ago. Business and mailshots are in decline as other ways and methods are used.
As you know yourself some of the early "decline" wasn't really a decline anyway, It was simply a move towards a more professional auditing system rather than the old way of "well that looks like 10,000 items so we'll add 10% just to be on the safe side".
I don't know any such thing. How operational staff choose to guesstimate inter-office mail etc (for whatever reasons they may have) isn't relevant, as the amount processed ( ie the real stats, down-loaded and gathered every day and sent to Head Office) is counted down to the letter by the machinery processing it (as has been stated on here many times before) and clearly the decline is both real and continuing. Some M/Cs are even removing under-used letter processing machinery when even five years ago they would have running flat-out 24/7.
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Tman wrote:Terminal decline, ie reaching a state from which it will never recover.
I reckon in say, ten years time the letter situation will be unrecognisable even from the current situation let alone from fifteen years ago. Business and mailshots are in decline as other ways and methods are used.
Rather than "reckon" you should read what the professionals have to say.

http://www.royalmailgroup.com/sites/def ... 202023.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Would that be the same sort of "professionals" who said the Beatles weren't worth signing, nuclear power would be so cheap that it wouldn't be worth fitting meters, the Internet would be a flash in the pan, only 5000 Poles would arrive here and no-one would ever need a PC with more than 10 KB of storage? Those professionals? :cuppa
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Tman wrote:Would that be the same sort of "professionals" who said the Beatles weren't worth signing....
Ahh the old professionals...what do they know? argument..
You've got me there Tman, I bow to your superior "reckoning" of projected mail volumes in the next 10 years.
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Three posts and you're already singing your same old song. Didn't take long, did it?
You said I shouldn't "reckon" but should read what the "professionals" have to say about it, and my point, in reply, was "professionals" aren't infallible and can be just as wayward in their opinions and projections as everybody else.
Sad thing is that page four PwC have used three underlying assumptions and a "number" of macroeconomic assumptions which means the whole report could really be prefaced with "We're guessing here..."
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Tman wrote:Sad thing is that page four PwC have used three underlying assumptions and a "number" of macroeconomic assumptions which means the whole report could really be prefaced with "We're guessing here..."
And here was me thinking they had just travelled into the future...
What macroeconomic assumptions did you use for your "reckoning"?
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Re: Spot The Difference - Parcel Sorting Machines

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Two in four... :cuppa