Network 09 and Weekend Review

[poopongjockmcploop]

I heard this has been delayed until 7th September and CWU notified last week.

[Carnoustie]

Correct.
RM are pushing for agreement on all necessary driving revisions, duty re-signs etc, to be completed for Network 2009 to start on 7th September. They have implied that if agreement cannot be reached by that deadline, they'll bring it in anyway by Executive Action

[andy2007]

Nothing out of the ordinary there then! Agree with us, or we'll do it anyway!

[POSTMAN]

What does this actually mean and who does it affect,i keep hearing about this and aint got a clue what it is.

[Carnoustie]

What does this actually mean and who does it affect,i keep hearing about this and aint got a clue what it is.

It affects drivers working out of RDC's across the country, in what used to be known as the Streamline part of the business, handling bulk postings like Sky mags, utility bills, credit card statements etc etc. Some of the changes also have implications for indoor sorting staff, with weekend work being removed completely from one location, to be processed at another, without CWU agreement either locally or nationally. Staff whose duties covered the weekend will be displaced, and others will now lose O/T earnings unless they are prepared to travel to the new location (which, after extra petrol costs, will hardly be worthwhile).

[POSTMAN]

What does this actually mean and who does it affect,i keep hearing about this and aint got a clue what it is.

It affects drivers working out of RDC's across the country, in what used to be known as the Streamline part of the business, handling bulk postings like Sky mags, utility bills, credit card statements etc etc. Some of the changes also have implications for indoor sorting staff, with weekend work being removed completely from one location, to be processed at another, without CWU agreement either locally or nationally. Staff whose duties covered the weekend will be displaced, and others will now lose O/T earnings unless they are prepared to travel to the new location (which, after extra petrol costs, will hardly be worthwhile).

Thanks.

[weetrogg]

It will also mean mail will be arriving in MCs on staurday evenings, which lucky souls will have to work these hours???

[hagrid]

It will also mean mail will be arriving in MCs on staurday evenings, which lucky souls will have to work these hours???

All our weekend MC working will be S/A's on the Saturday night. All the drivers will have a big re-sign if and when it comes in.

They will not be happy as they are all groaning already!!

If they RM get their way here, when the processing staff get in on Sunday night all they will have to do is sort it up - no tipping as the Saturday night staff should have done it.

Hagrid.

[hubbahubba]

It will also mean mail will be arriving in MCs on staurday evenings, which lucky souls will have to work these hours???

All our weekend MC working will be S/A's on the Saturday night. All the drivers will have a big re-sign if and when it comes in.

They will not be happy as they are all groaning already!!

If they RM get their way here, when the processing staff get in on Sunday night all they will have to do is sort it up - no tipping as the Saturday night staff should have done it.

Hagrid.

They are trying to create some new duties at my MC to cover it,anyone fancy 2pm-10pm saturday?No,didnt think so!!!

[hagrid]

Another thing to think of is S/A's could be up to 12 hours WITHOUT a paid break.

As these do not generate a paid break, only grace breaks if and when work allows.

Would I do this - I don't think so

[Tman]

Another thing to think of is S/A's could be up to 12 hours WITHOUT a paid break.

As these do not generate a paid break, only grace breaks if and when work allows.

Would I do this - I don't think so

Nothing unusual about that in RM, and personally I would say it's better that way.
Twelve hour shift is long enough without making it thirteen with a compulsary meal relief. I've never seen ops staff work through a meal break in RM yet, especially as the law allows a break after so many work hours.

[machineman]

our mail centre goes over to sat night working from then we have s/a's for sat night which means we loose all sunday overtime !!! guess it work out cheaper for RM that way but how long till sundat duties go ??

[TrueBlueTerrier]

Another thing to think of is S/A's could be up to 12 hours WITHOUT a paid break.

As these do not generate a paid break, only grace breaks if and when work allows.

Would I do this - I don't think so

Nothing unusual about that in RM, and personally I would say it's better that way.
Twelve hour shift is long enough without making it thirteen with a compulsary meal relief. I've never seen ops staff work through a meal break in RM yet, especially as the law allows a break after so many work hours.

Its a different world in MCs thats for sure. Its fairly rare that staff in DOs actually take their breaks, in fact those that do are sometimes in the minority.

[andy2007]

Another thing to think of is S/A's could be up to 12 hours WITHOUT a paid break.

As these do not generate a paid break, only grace breaks if and when work allows.

Would I do this - I don't think so

No, that's not quite right. You don't get any PAID breaks whilst performing S/A (unless it's a Sunday). But you DO get UNpaid breaks. Whether the work allows or not.

I suggest that you contact your Rep ASAP, and get this sorted out. This is taken from The Way Forward Agreement (this part is still in force).
Meal Brakes for non-standard, as part-time and extended attendances

Part-time jobs, and full-time jobs with non-standard attendance patterns, will attract meal breaks for each daily attendance as followed, reflecting a generally pro-rata entitlement to the national weekly standard:

Attendance length total breaks probable pattern

Less than 2 hours 30 minutes none (a 10 min grace break should be provided if work permits)
2 hours 30 to 3 hours 10 mins 10
3 hours 1 to 3 hours 30 15 mins 15
3 hours 31 to 4 hours 59 20 mins 20
5 hours to 7 hours 30 mins 30
7 hours 1 to 8 hours 59 40 mins 40 or 20 + 20
9 hours to 10 hours 59 50 mins 30 + 20
11 hours to 12 hours 59 60 mins 40 + 20 or 30 + 30
13 hours or longer 70 mins 40 + 30

Pending completion of the discussions intended to conform with the requirements of the Working Time Regulations, any exceptional attendances of 15 hours or longer will attract an entitlement of 80 minutes.

The actual pattern of breaks within these rules will be agreed locally.


Overtime and Schedule Attendance

Attendances consisting wholly of overtime, or of Scheduled Attendance on Sunday, should attract paid breaks based on the length of the attendance as in the table above. Attendances consisting wholly of weekday SA should attract unpaid breaks on the same basis, at least one of which must be schedule within the attendance rather than at the beginning or end. Where there is a gap of up to 59 minutes between duty and overtime (but not Scheduled Attendance, except on Sunday) that cannot be filled with useful work, this will be considered booked through time and paid for at normal overtime rates.

Conditioned attendances extended by overtime (or by SA on Sunday) consecutive with the beginning or end will attract additional breaks if the entitlement for the total attendance (overtime plus conditioned hours), in the table above, is greater than the breaks already scheduled during the conditioned attendance. For example, an 8 hour conditioned attendance with 4 hours overtime would attract an extra 20 minutes (i.e. 60 minus 40). In most cases, particularly if the additional break is for only 10 minutes, it should be taken between the period of overtime and the normal conditioned attendance.

[poopongjockmcploop]

Still the 7th I gather?