Intergrated Mail Processor Operators!

[axeman]

my guess it's the onus is on whoever owns / rent the building as we only work there it's there job to ensure our h&s whilst on there property thats why if someone slips or falls in a shop or on a pavement then the shop owners / council are the ones sued not the workers

[L Tommo]

PJ So i use CAPS and if you see i always do, Not to mean SHOUTING but just when i make a point... Why do u feel attacked for??? Sad.... I dont infer ANYTHING.. Just my point which you have the same right.... So wot....? I think you have this cyber posting a little bit to far.... ITS POST FFS.... And as i pointed out in the post before.... I come to work for pay... Not to prove to rm anything..... I dont n wl=ont stick my nose into others business at work and if another person isnt working near me its the screws job to take not not urs or mine...

I dont like grasses and i dont like spineless people who cry off when a point dont go there way...

If you go back over my posts to you i just tell you how i feel.. I ask Q's of you and your reasons behind your posts and even then all you do is take it personal and whine... Its sad really,, As i say ONCE AGAIN... If anybody has a point on my postings then im happy to take any critisism....

SHAME YOU CANT... IN MY OPINON.....

OUT

PS CAPS......

[oldrope]

at last mr rm we agree!! h&s is every body responsbilty. if you see a box on the floor, pick it up. a yorky with no straps take it off the road ect. As for eating drinking ect if the manager turns a blind eye the imps will still do it.by the way last week we broke the record for a shift and the manager gets the coffees in.

[BELIAL]

I'm so busy validating my worth I don,t think I can respond

[Flashman]

Flashman... I agree that EVERYBODY has a responcebility for H&S in the work place...

But ive found When ive either asked a SCREW to move a peice of Machinary safely away.. I saw them move it to the side... No note or warning that the camban was not safe.. When i flagged this up. (AS Rm like to call it) I then moved it outside like we have been told... On return.. I was grilled over where i had been.. It was put in a FACT FINDING MEET to find out why i was Not at point of duty...
Then blamed me for "DELIBERATELY NOT WORKING FOR A REASON... And not being on point of duty... When i told the p***k Screw why i was outside and if h wanted to find out from the security cameras then he would see what and where i was... They STILL wanted to do me for point of duty... I told em to do one.... But THIS.... is the reason there is bad feeling in my office and many others... DICK HEAD SCREWS WITH NO BRAINS AND NASTY WITH IT... So i cant take any comments on H&S seriously with RM involved....

But they didn't do you for it.

Over the past month or so I've been making a point of 'flagging up' broken equipment. At first it was ignored by my manager, in fact my colleagues disregarded the equipment was 'out of service' signs and continued to use them.
Though in time the pile of broken equipment has grown bigger and bigger and now no one is using them or very few anyway, and it was starting to become a bit of a problem for my manager.

Now someone has been given the job of taking away all the broken equipment.

The point is that you have done everything that RM has asked of you, and if you really want to get one over on Crozier and Leighton and protect our jobs, then we have to do everything by the book, which is what jedi is trying to say.

If like others have said that HS is not their responsibility, and that it is down to the company to protect them then nothing will ever get done.

Yes, managers will from time to time pay a token gesture to HS but it is up to us to make sure they deal with it everyday. Not only will we be saving lives as in fire exits being blocked but we will also in a way be protecting our jobs.

I'm behind jedi all the way on this one.

I'm currently reading Oliver Twist and I thoroughly recommend it.

[L Tommo]

HAHAHAHAHAHAH
BELIAL......


I hope when your done making the screws know your THANKFUL I recon you be fine and we all will welcome you back as a valid member of this site as all us union members are....


Well strike breakers n screws wouldnt want to be tard with the same brush as us stick in the muds and militant little men and women would they????

out

[L Tommo]

ARE YOU JOKING???

"But they didn't do you for it. "


YOU SURE????

Ohhhh please tell me you are flashman>>>?

[BELIAL]

SShh I'm still validating

[Flashman]

ARE YOU JOKING???

"But they didn't do you for it. "


YOU SURE????

Ohhhh please tell me you are flashman>>>?

How could they when you are doing what was asked of you.

They can intimidate you and I am quite well aware they can manipulate things but at some point someone has to make a stand and say this is wrong.

Its up to you whether you make a stand or you can bury your head in the sand and hope that someone else comes along and does it for you.

[postal_jedi]

How could they when you are doing what was asked of you.

They can intimidate you and I am quite well aware they can manipulate things but at some point someone has to make a stand and say this is wrong.

Its up to you whether you make a stand or you can bury your head in the sand and hope that someone else comes along and does it for you.

This is your chance, L Tommo, to get up and get better for yourself and your workmates. Go for it, man, before you miss it. Oh, what's that? You miss most things!

[axeman]

p.j just what is betterment within r.m ? being a screw ? bending to be shafted ? being subserviant to you master ? or just plain being a complete arse ?

[postal_jedi]

p.j just what is betterment within r.m ? being a screw ? bending to be shafted ? being subserviant to you master ? or just plain being a complete arse ?

I think you best ask 'L Tommo' that one, he's the one fighting for it, apparently! I don't see how refraining from eating and drinking, leaning and talking on machinery, putting more effort and concentration into a newspaper, instead of tending to the operation of the machine and throwing things is paramount to being a screw, subservient to a master or bending and being shafted. It is your job, it is what RM are paying you to do. Don't do it and eventually they will take it from us.

[axeman]

what is betterment within r.m, p.j no answers for it ?
just take a look at other industries outside of r.m see how they operate they aren't pressured at every managers whim as many have said we do not get paid enough to exert ourselves .Yes r.m would love it if we all were martyrs to the cause as iv'e said before you do yours and i'll do mine but do not berate others who simply just do the job and no more!!

[postal_jedi]

what is betterment within r.m, p.j no answers for it ?
just take a look at other industries outside of r.m see how they operate they aren't pressured at every managers whim as many have said we do not get paid enough to exert ourselves .Yes r.m would love it if we all were martyrs to the cause as iv'e said before you do yours and i'll do mine but do not berate others who simply just do the job and no more!!

I am not the poster claiming I am fighting for betterment, but I would see betterment as maintaining good pay, good allowances e.g. shift, sick pay, holidays etc.... and to be treat with respect. I simply believe it is a matter of time before RM turn around and say why should we pay you for your first 3days sick, no other industry does, lets scrap paid meal reliefs or we need one less man on an IMP, like on an LSM. I would also say, yes, there are some industries that treat their staff better than RM, but also that their are many industries that treat their staff worse, i.e. Retail, the industry that many posters believe they are just going to walk into, if things in RM go downhill. We live in an age of capitalism, with very rich men at the top who are only to willing to exploit. You seem to think that the only way to improve your working conditions is to hate management and be as uncooperative as possible. This idealogy would be fine if everyone in the world was to take that stance. Unfortunatley, there is always someone who will undercut you. By partaking in non-work activities you are not 'simply just doing the job and no more', you are showing the employer that they don't need as much time from you and it will eventually have an effect not only on you, but your colleagues too.

[axeman]

no p.j my time is quite full thanks i do NOT make any free time from r.m perhaps in the minority ? the point is not to hate management but mearly to be very wary of greeks bearing gifts. Exploitation is going to be rife within r.m just wait many of these so called managers are simply not up to the task of seperating there social lives / friends from the work place thats why favouriteism is rife within r.m. not a question of being 'uncoperative' just a case of doing your job and no more got problems with that ? by doing that you cannot be asked to take on more work after all my time is my time r.m has no hold over me whatsoever in my time whilst in work i do my job that should suffice