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Machines being decommissioned/removed from Mail Centres

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Lockardian
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Re: Machines being decommissioned/removed from Mail Centres

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I wonder why they’ve stopped the direct sleeves? The idea was that scanning the York barcode would update the status for every Tracked item in the sleeve/York - though often this didn’t seem to work and there was no “received at inward MC” scan for any of those items. Perhaps this problem has been noted hence the changes.
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Lockardian wrote:
18 Apr 2023, 00:37
I wonder why they’ve stopped the direct sleeves? The idea was that scanning the York barcode would update the status for every Tracked item in the sleeve/York - though often this didn’t seem to work and there was no “received at inward MC” scan for any of those items. Perhaps this problem has been noted hence the changes.
Think it was down to the missorts in them. When they go direct to the DOs there's no opportunity to get any missorts back to the MC for the final run to the correct DO
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Re: Machines being decommissioned/removed from Mail Centres

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SpacePhoenix wrote:
18 Apr 2023, 07:31
Lockardian wrote:
18 Apr 2023, 00:37
I wonder why they’ve stopped the direct sleeves? The idea was that scanning the York barcode would update the status for every Tracked item in the sleeve/York - though often this didn’t seem to work and there was no “received at inward MC” scan for any of those items. Perhaps this problem has been noted hence the changes.
Think it was down to the missorts in them. When they go direct to the DOs there's no opportunity to get any missorts back to the MC for the final run to the correct DO
Yeah there are loads of missorts in them (none tracked also in them, odd chance for a SD), also on a weekend they have to be checked incase there are tracked 24 in them for the gold spots (or what ever color your using)

But we still get the direct sleeves in at our spot to 2 or 3 DO's then the rest are residue ones, that need to be york scanned then sorted into other yorks - seem to get around 1-5 items in each york as a missort.
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Post by denhamhoop »

The Direct Sleeves for the DO's at Greenford get scanned and sent straight to the Office as for the Mixed Sleeves they have a nice mix of Tracked and Non Tracked in them have to say the missort rate is probably better than I get from our own Inward Sorters. Now the sleeves we get from Milton Keynes have to be seen to be believed I think Stevie Wonder must be the Workplace coach as if you threw packets up in the air and banked on pot luck where they land would probably be more accurate
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Re: Machines being decommissioned/removed from Mail Centres

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SpacePhoenix wrote:
16 Apr 2023, 07:36
Lockardian wrote:
15 Apr 2023, 23:34
SpacePhoenix wrote:
15 Apr 2023, 21:21
2chorizon wrote:
15 Apr 2023, 18:56
Second PSM install has been scrapped, i heard they are trying to get out of their contract with Solystic on purchasing the remaining PSM’s on order as they think they are having too many breakdowns.
Wonder if RM are about to throw out their parcel strategy, the superhubs aren't much good without PSMs in MCs to do the final breakdown to DO level
Unless the plan going forward is for the NWH and other parcel hubs to sort more items to DO level.
Physically impossible for the superhubs to sort to DO level without some DOs getting their work MUCH LATER. The machines don't have enough selections available. If they were to carry on with their parcel strategy I'd expect then to ramp up the installation of PSMs in MCs and look at getting packets walk sorted to reduce the indoor time in DOs
Who thought it was a good idea to build a super-hub without this flexibility?
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im not really into the know of mail centre machines but i work at a hub.....
there isnt enough room at this 1 for anymore machines...
the place just hasnt the room
theyve jammed in robot and belts and so leaving very little space
i bet they wished theyd built a wayyyy bigger building
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centenaryman wrote:
25 Apr 2023, 19:43
im not really into the know of mail centre machines but i work at a hub.....
there isnt enough room at this 1 for anymore machines...
the place just hasnt the room
theyve jammed in robot and belts and so leaving very little space
i bet they wished theyd built a wayyyy bigger building
How many useable selections does the machine at the hub have?
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SpacePhoenix wrote:
25 Apr 2023, 20:10
centenaryman wrote:
25 Apr 2023, 19:43
im not really into the know of mail centre machines but i work at a hub.....
there isnt enough room at this 1 for anymore machines...
the place just hasnt the room
theyve jammed in robot and belts and so leaving very little space
i bet they wished theyd built a wayyyy bigger building
How many useable selections does the machine at the hub have?
Soz what do u mean by useable selections

they have 6 robots so ie trying to get useable yorks black sleeves now white sleeves/plastic that tip on to belts
they have 2 de palleting places that u manually tip on to belts and about 6 booms for wagons that feed on to belts

all for parcels not mail.....parcels have to be a min of 5mm thick or dont get read on the belts
it was all designed for boxes/parcels not for bag or paper parcels....engineers tell us its wrong to put none boxes through but managers insist cos trying to hit targets
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Re: Machines being decommissioned/removed from Mail Centres

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I’m not sure how 2C/T48 mail is segged at outward mail centres but it seems every 2C item (large padded envelopes, very small packets etc) all seem to get routed via the NWH from my local mail centre.

Another centre I’ve worked on does not directly feed the NWH - 2C is segged between PPI/Metered/Horizon/Stamped and sent on to a larger MC for processing (which sends some or all of them to the NWH).
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Re: Machines being decommissioned/removed from Mail Centres

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centenaryman wrote:
26 Apr 2023, 20:50
Soz what do u mean by useable selections

they have 6 robots so ie trying to get useable yorks black sleeves now white sleeves/plastic that tip on to belts
they have 2 de palleting places that u manually tip on to belts and about 6 booms for wagons that feed on to belts

all for parcels not mail.....parcels have to be a min of 5mm thick or dont get read on the belts
it was all designed for boxes/parcels not for bag or paper parcels....engineers tell us its wrong to put none boxes through but managers insist cos trying to hit targets
I mean outputs. You've have one spoken for for rejects. If you have multiple sort plans then you're likely to have on each sort plan an output for each of the other sort plans.

If RM want to use the super hubs then they'll need to adjust the machines in the super hubs to be able to read anything as these days yorks and sleeves have a very wide variety of sizes of items on/in them
Lockardian wrote:
27 Apr 2023, 11:55
I’m not sure how 2C/T48 mail is segged at outward mail centres but it seems every 2C item (large padded envelopes, very small packets etc) all seem to get routed via the NWH from my local mail centre.

Another centre I’ve worked on does not directly feed the NWH - 2C is segged between PPI/Metered/Horizon/Stamped and sent on to a larger MC for processing (which sends some or all of them to the NWH).
We send our 2C/T48 to another MC that has got a PSM, we're due to get a PSM eventually so I'm guessing that we'll do our own until the southern hub eventually is built and is operational