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tracy1
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bank holiday strike
glad to see the union has called strike over the bank holiday weekend. managers will be called back from thier mini breaks to deal with the massive queues of pensioners/car tax customers. after this weekend they might not think we are" overpaid shop workers after all"
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POSTMAN
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Hello there and belated welcome.
Oh look Primark another one!!!!
Not aimed at you tracey,just check out the 'Why cant we' thread in here.
http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/forum/vi ... php?t=3765
And good luck.
Oh look Primark another one!!!!
POSTMAN wrote:As you know i sent out flyers to the Smiths 70 and the response is not too good,but the chances are if the clerks came on here i'm guessing you'd get the same response that we're giving.
Not aimed at you tracey,just check out the 'Why cant we' thread in here.
http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/forum/vi ... php?t=3765
And good luck.
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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armani
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Re: bank holiday strike
No just well paid Post Office workers that can afford to loose upwards of £300tracy1 wrote:glad to see the union has called strike over the bank holiday weekend. managers will be called back from thier mini breaks to deal with the massive queues of pensioners/car tax customers. after this weekend they might not think we are" overpaid shop workers after all"
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BELIAL
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Re: bank holiday strike
Knobarmani wrote:No just well paid Post Office workers that can afford to loose upwards of £300tracy1 wrote:glad to see the union has called strike over the bank holiday weekend. managers will be called back from thier mini breaks to deal with the massive queues of pensioners/car tax customers. after this weekend they might not think we are" overpaid shop workers after all"You are proving their point. We are already well paid
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armani
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Re: bank holiday strike
Go and follow someone else, you smell really badly of shite. Go awayBELIAL wrote:Knobarmani wrote:No just well paid Post Office workers that can afford to loose upwards of £300tracy1 wrote:glad to see the union has called strike over the bank holiday weekend. managers will be called back from thier mini breaks to deal with the massive queues of pensioners/car tax customers. after this weekend they might not think we are" overpaid shop workers after all"You are proving their point. We are already well paid
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Re: bank holiday strike
armani wrote:No just well paid Post Office workers that can afford to loose upwards of £300tracy1 wrote:glad to see the union has called strike over the bank holiday weekend. managers will be called back from thier mini breaks to deal with the massive queues of pensioners/car tax customers. after this weekend they might not think we are" overpaid shop workers after all"You are proving their point. We are already well paid
I HOPE PEOPLE ARE GETTING WISE TO YOU MR AND DON'T FALL FOR YOUR TACTICS. I THINK YOUR SAD. GO OFF AND DECAY SOMEWHERE ELSE. YOU NEED TO GET A LIFE, LOSER
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armani
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Re: bank holiday strike
Just like they have fallen for yours?cornishrep wrote:armani wrote:No just well paid Post Office workers that can afford to loose upwards of £300tracy1 wrote:glad to see the union has called strike over the bank holiday weekend. managers will be called back from thier mini breaks to deal with the massive queues of pensioners/car tax customers. after this weekend they might not think we are" overpaid shop workers after all"You are proving their point. We are already well paid
I HOPE PEOPLE ARE GETTING WISE TO YOU MR AND DON'T FALL FOR YOUR TACTICS. I THINK YOUR SAD. GO OFF AND DECAY SOMEWHERE ELSE. YOU NEED TO GET A LIFE, LOSER
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POSTMAN
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Re: bank holiday strike
I know i shouldn't of,but as i was reading that comment sort of stood out and made me laugh out loud,got a funny look from the missus.BELIAL wrote:Knobarmani wrote:No just well paid Post Office workers that can afford to loose upwards of £300tracy1 wrote:glad to see the union has called strike over the bank holiday weekend. managers will be called back from thier mini breaks to deal with the massive queues of pensioners/car tax customers. after this weekend they might not think we are" overpaid shop workers after all"You are proving their point. We are already well paid
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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armani
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Re: bank holiday strike
Was it the '' ohh no, he really is getting strange. The computer is making him laugh now.'' LookPOSTMAN wrote:I know i shouldn't of,but as i was reading that comment sort of stood out and made me laugh out loud,got a funny look from the missus.BELIAL wrote:Knobarmani wrote:No just well paid Post Office workers that can afford to loose upwards of £300tracy1 wrote:glad to see the union has called strike over the bank holiday weekend. managers will be called back from thier mini breaks to deal with the massive queues of pensioners/car tax customers. after this weekend they might not think we are" overpaid shop workers after all"You are proving their point. We are already well paid
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TrueBlueTerrier
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Re: bank holiday strike
and you keep proving everyone's opinion of you by appearing to belittle genuinely held beliefs.armani wrote:No just well paid Post Office workers that can afford to loose upwards of £300tracy1 wrote:glad to see the union has called strike over the bank holiday weekend. managers will be called back from thier mini breaks to deal with the massive queues of pensioners/car tax customers. after this weekend they might not think we are" overpaid shop workers after all"You are proving their point. We are already well paid
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i cannot afford to lose £300. but like the majority of my colleauges i know what i'm worth. we are one of the top offices, our sales figures are always excellent but we were ask why we thought we should be paid more than people working in the co-op. we were also asked why we thought we were worth more than our csa colleaugues. none of us fell for this divide and rule ploy and all except one came out on strike. the one that came to work sounds just like mr primark strangely enough!
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Re: bank holiday strike
No just well paid Post Office workers that can afford to loose upwards of £300
You are proving their point. We are already well paid[/quote]
It does depend on your own personal view as to whether you think POL staff are well-paid or not. Comparing POL staff with bank staff or M&S staff or similar is not helpful. When I last looked there were in excess of 170 transactions available at the counter, and we expect our people to have a working knowledge of most of them. Banks, as an example, seem to do 2 - money in & money out, obviously there are variations on those themes, but not 170!
I think that by and large, PO's get a good wage, which in a lot of places can be supplemented with overtime, and of course the much maligned productivity bonuses. CSA's are a lot worse off, and as a way of reducing the wage bill when the grade was introduced I think it can generally be looked on as a failure. The idea was to pay CSA's less, and greatly reduce the number of PO's over time, until they were in the minority. Obviously what happened was the opposite, and most PO's are still in post, and there is a high turn-over of CSA's, largely because of the lower pay scale, which does not always attract the type of quality staff that used to apply to be PO's.
I also know very few PO's or CSA's who can actually afford to lose £300, so your comment Mr Armani, would seem to be designed to provoke a negative reaction. A lot of your posts follow similar lines, and while you go to great lengths to ask for sensible debate, when anyone disagrees with you or throws a barbed comment your way you tend to react in kind or worse. I would question your motives, if you believe that you represent any part of the POL staff then I think you seriously run the risk of alienating them by the nature of your posts and style of responses to others.
It does depend on your own personal view as to whether you think POL staff are well-paid or not. Comparing POL staff with bank staff or M&S staff or similar is not helpful. When I last looked there were in excess of 170 transactions available at the counter, and we expect our people to have a working knowledge of most of them. Banks, as an example, seem to do 2 - money in & money out, obviously there are variations on those themes, but not 170!
I think that by and large, PO's get a good wage, which in a lot of places can be supplemented with overtime, and of course the much maligned productivity bonuses. CSA's are a lot worse off, and as a way of reducing the wage bill when the grade was introduced I think it can generally be looked on as a failure. The idea was to pay CSA's less, and greatly reduce the number of PO's over time, until they were in the minority. Obviously what happened was the opposite, and most PO's are still in post, and there is a high turn-over of CSA's, largely because of the lower pay scale, which does not always attract the type of quality staff that used to apply to be PO's.
I also know very few PO's or CSA's who can actually afford to lose £300, so your comment Mr Armani, would seem to be designed to provoke a negative reaction. A lot of your posts follow similar lines, and while you go to great lengths to ask for sensible debate, when anyone disagrees with you or throws a barbed comment your way you tend to react in kind or worse. I would question your motives, if you believe that you represent any part of the POL staff then I think you seriously run the risk of alienating them by the nature of your posts and style of responses to others.
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Re: bank holiday strike
This gets to the heart of the matter with Leighton and Croziers approach to the whole business, they do not seem to appreciate the old saying "You pay peanuts, you get monkeys".bigjames wrote:, largely because of the lower pay scale, which does not always attract the type of quality staff that used to apply to be PO's.
People will not work hard for anyone if they don't think they are being paid enough, and if they are dishonest they will steal to supplement their wages.
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armani
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Yes, the comment was a bit negative.
What I was getting though. Was there are many colleagues going on about they cannot afford not to have less than a rate of inflation pay rise due to mortgage payments etc...
However to have lost £300 from 2-3months pay well out strips a ROI pay rise. So by maintaining the stance they are proving they can afford not to have the pay rise.
I think some people are standing firm for false beliefs. i.e. they think that by loosing 20p now they will be gaining £1 down the road.
I just do not see it happening.
We have been getting warned for the last few years that theres no money and in that time POL have done precious little to help that due to all the snagging with getting a sales culture recognised and built on. The last 2 years we fell short with income so they had to step up an incentive scheme (at more cost) just to get what we should have had anyway.
We can't expect to get away with not putting enough in and still expect all the goodies back out.
Im afraid folks, that until we, as a company (POL) realise that we no longer have all the lucrative contracts and are not the only place to get the services we cannot expect to get all that we want unless we work for it. AND I still maintain if we all had got our fingers out 3 yrs ago instead of fighting it we would not be where we are now.
What I was getting though. Was there are many colleagues going on about they cannot afford not to have less than a rate of inflation pay rise due to mortgage payments etc...
However to have lost £300 from 2-3months pay well out strips a ROI pay rise. So by maintaining the stance they are proving they can afford not to have the pay rise.
I think some people are standing firm for false beliefs. i.e. they think that by loosing 20p now they will be gaining £1 down the road.
I just do not see it happening.
We have been getting warned for the last few years that theres no money and in that time POL have done precious little to help that due to all the snagging with getting a sales culture recognised and built on. The last 2 years we fell short with income so they had to step up an incentive scheme (at more cost) just to get what we should have had anyway.
We can't expect to get away with not putting enough in and still expect all the goodies back out.
Im afraid folks, that until we, as a company (POL) realise that we no longer have all the lucrative contracts and are not the only place to get the services we cannot expect to get all that we want unless we work for it. AND I still maintain if we all had got our fingers out 3 yrs ago instead of fighting it we would not be where we are now.