Jim Armitage: No way of dealing with posties who stamp on Royal Mail

Post by **TrueBlueTerrier** » 07 Oct 2017, 14:34

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Royal Mail chief Moya Greene has done more than most bosses would to end the long history of industrial action by posties.

In an agreement both sides signed in 2013, she offered pledges of no outsourcing, no zero-hours contracts, no farming-out of work to cheap overseas locations and pay rises.

In return, the unions agreed not to strike before going into external mediation.

The deal was supposed to be legally binding, yet today we wake up to the news that the Communication Workers Union is to hold a nationwide strike again. No mediation.

The industrial action is self-defeating on so many levels.

Every time posties strike, they hand over another slug of the market to Royal Mail’s rivals, where the workers probably have fewer rights and tougher conditions.

Even the CWU-backed Labour party uses Whistl for its post these days.

What’s more, each strike shrinks the postal market as customers get ever more used to finding other options, be that Dropbox, email, conference calls or couriers.

There’s another concession Greene gave: she gifted employees a 12% slice of the company when it floated four years ago.

Since talk of a strike started rumbling in May, Royal Mail’s market value has fallen 15%, wiping £75 million off the value of the workers’ shares.

The shares have tumbled as investors take an ever-dimmer view of Royal Mail’s strike-prone future.

But it seems the union isn’t too bothered about the company’s prospects. CWU deputy chief Terry Pullinger has said he’d rather “smash it to bits” than back down on his row with the Royal Mail management.

How is Greene expected to deal with a mindset like that?

wannabeek · Post by **wannabeek** » 07 Oct 2017, 14:40

Ex-squeeze me?? Moya gifted us 12% of the company?? Erm, I believe that was the government did that.

Sorry, there are so many flaws in that document written but does anybody, even this deluded author, actually believe that Moya gifted away 12% of 'her' company? Oh please.

banner · Post by **banner** » 07 Oct 2017, 16:16

No mention of the violations RM have made of the 2013 agreement. What a convenient omission.

redneck · Post by **redneck** » 07 Oct 2017, 16:47

Armitage will never present a full picture.

Phantom · Post by **Phantom** » 07 Oct 2017, 17:42

Half a story by some right wing tosser - fake news.

pinstripe · Post by **pinstripe** » 07 Oct 2017, 18:34

"In an agreement both sides signed in 2013, she offered pledges of no outsourcing, no zero-hours contracts, no farming-out of work to cheap overseas locations and pay rises."

No Outsourcing? Isn't that what the current increase in agency staff is?
No Zero Hours Contracts? But no increase in part time to full time contracts.
No Farming Out of Work to Overseas Locations? Difficult when the majority of CWU grade work is geographically in the UK.
Pay Rises? With more strings than a big box of string tied up with string.

Apart from that, the rest of the article is rubbish.

fishtank · Post by **fishtank** » 07 Oct 2017, 18:48

It's a crappy rehash of the press release RM sent out. If he was paid anything for this it was too much. Journalistic integrity, there's a phrase with f**k all meaning these days.

pinstripe · Post by **pinstripe** » 08 Oct 2017, 09:13

Is it any wonder that, with such lazy journalism these days, "Fake News" seems to have become a mantra

Spedley · Post by **Spedley** » 08 Oct 2017, 11:13

Wow, that is a very poor article. I can only assume it was written by Moya herself.

Post by **POSTMAN** » 08 Oct 2017, 13:44

GRS · Post by **GRS** » 09 Oct 2017, 05:15

Reading that article you’d think that Moya owns RM, that it was a company that she had built up with hard graft over many years and that we were shitting all over her when we should be grateful. Instead, Mr Journalist Moya is a Johnny Come Lately from foreign climes with no idea of what a great British Institution Royal Mail is and that it has been built up over 500 years from hard graft by workers - the very people her sort despises. She has invested no time or money unlike us who have been with the company a long time whether it be 5,10,20 or 40 years and in that time have not only given our working lives but a vast amount of earnings to the pension plan that she wishes to kill. Perhaps the journalist should apply to be a DOM as he also seems to be a right knob.

DirtyHarry · Post by **DirtyHarry** » 09 Oct 2017, 17:47

The Standard, isn't former Tory chancellor, George Osborne, no friend to the working class, editor of that rag?

andykawa18 · Post by **andykawa18** » 10 Oct 2017, 17:13

Mmm.who delivers whistl post!!!

daveyeff · Post by **daveyeff** » 10 Oct 2017, 17:25

''no mediation'' ?...wtf?...there's been mediation for most of the talks. he wants to pull his heed out of his arse before making comments like that. dickhead.

Dorset Plodder · Post by **Dorset Plodder** » 13 Oct 2017, 21:36

andykawa18 wrote:Mmm.who delivers whistl post!!!

My thoughts exactly AK. Perhaps we've missed that other Whistl Postie following us up the road posting their mail?

From what I can make out all this Down Stream Access (DSA) business consists of is turning up at the customer with a big truck... loading up their mail... and then driving down to the ROYAL MAIL Mail Centres and dumping it into the normal mail system?

Not forgetting to collect your cash, which has only got to be a few percent cheaper than the Royal Mail alternative. Seeing as we deliver the last mile (and have to comply with the USO) it must be a nice little earner?