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Mersey postmen refuse to join in The Sun's World Cup charm offensive

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Workers at Skelmersdale office tell bosses they will walk out rather than deliver free copies

Postmen at a Royal Mail branch are set to defy bosses by refusing to deliver copies of The Sun newspaper.

The posties at the Skelmersdale office will walk out this week after managers said there was no option but deliver it.

The paper, which remains controversial over its coverage of the Hillsborough tragedy , approached Royal Mail to deliver 22m copies across England as part of a World Cup promotion campaign.

The Sun said it would not deliver copies in Liverpool. But some areas of Merseyside – such as Wirral – have the Chester postcode, while Southport has the Preston postcode and Skem shares the Wigan postcode.

Up to 50 staff at the Skem branch were told of the decision to deliver the paper on Friday.

But posties have reacted angrily.

One said: “I felt sick to be honest that I would have to handle it. We would be delivering it to people that were at Hillsborough and to people that lost a loved one or knew someone that died at Hillsborough.

“You’ll always get people who will do it and people are worried about their jobs, but a good percentage of people will walk out.”

Royal Mail spokesperson Sally Hopkins said: “We have been awarded the contract to deliver a promotional World Cup edition of The Sun to 22 million homes in England on 12 and 13 June.

“The postal service is, of course, open to everyone provided the material they post meets all the relevant legal requirements.

“The Sun has chosen not to include Liverpool in the mailing.

“Any individual concerns will be handled sensitively with fairness, dignity and fully respecting the views of individuals. Local CWU representatives and delivery office managers will work together to agree sensible and amicable solutions.”
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“Any individual concerns will be handled sensitively with fairness, dignity and fully respecting the views of individuals. Local CWU representatives and delivery office managers will work together to agree sensible and amicable solutions.”
In other words, deliver it or face the consequences.
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Employees that hold moral objections to doing the job they are paid to do should be encouraged to find an alternative that fits with their personal beliefs.
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Postal workers 'will strike' if told to deliver free Sun copies as Hillsborough anger continues

The paper still provokes anger in Skelmersdale over its coverage of the tragedy

Postal workers in Lancashire are threatening to strike if they are told to deliver free copies of the Sun next week in protest against its coverage of the Hillsborough tragedy.

Union members at the Royal Mail depot in Skelmersdale, near Liverpool, have vowed to walk out if “any copies of the Sun cross the gates”.

In a statement given to the Liverpool Class Action website , they called the newspaper "s***e".

The newspaper is delivering 22 million free World Cup editions around the country on Thursday and Friday.

The Sun is still reviled in parts of Merseyside and among Liverpool fans for its coverage of the Hillsborough disaster.

Skelmersdale has a strong association with Liverpool and workers advocating the postal strike are understood to support the long-running “Don’t Buy the Sun” campaign.

The Sun sparked outrage after the April 1989 tragedy where 96 people will killed and hundreds more injured.

Under a banner headline which read “The Truth”, the paper claimed the fatal crush at Sheffield Wednesday's ground was caused by drunken Liverpool fans.

The story claimed that some stole from the pockets of the dead and urinated on police officers trying to rescue them.

Inquiries have since concluded that Liverpool fans were not responsible for the disaster and police had released misleading statements in the wake of the tragedy.

Sally Hopkins, a spokesperson for Royal Mail, said the Sun had already chosen not to include Liverpool in the mailing.

She added: “Any individual concerns will be handled sensitively with fairness, dignity and fully respecting the views of individuals.

“Local CWU representatives and delivery office managers will work together to agree sensible and amicable solutions.”

A spokesman for the Communication Workers' Union (CWU) said an official strike had not been called and the action was being taken by a group of staff.


"It's not a strike at the moment but a divisional officer is meeting with Royal Mail to discuss it," she added.

"Some staff members were at the Hillsborough disaster and had family there and they feel very strongly about it."
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Brain Fury wrote:Employees that hold moral objections to doing the job they are paid to do should be encouraged to find an alternative that fits with their personal beliefs.
why just not just send them to the gas chamber Mr Fury for the audacity for holding THAT organisation to some moral consequences. Some things are more important than business or money...
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Brain Fury wrote:Employees that hold moral objections to doing the job they are paid to do should be encouraged to find an alternative that fits with their personal beliefs.
Brain. :left:
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Danelectro wrote:
Brain Fury wrote:Employees that hold moral objections to doing the job they are paid to do should be encouraged to find an alternative that fits with their personal beliefs.
why just not just send them to the gas chamber Mr Fury for the audacity for holding THAT organisation to some moral consequences. Some things are more important than business or money...
Rather expected a ridiculous response so congratulations on being first. You can apply whatever moral judgement you like to The Sun and News International but you are not entitled to use your employer's business as the weapon to exact the consequences of your judgement. If it really is more important than money to you then resign but I expect you really mean it is more important than somebody else's money.
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Brain Fury wrote:Employees that hold moral objections to doing the job they are paid to do should be encouraged to find an alternative that fits with their personal beliefs.
I would agree with you if the bulk, the majority or even a significant minority of their job clashed with their personal beliefs but that's not what we're talking about Mr Fury is it?

We're talking about what will likely be a one-off posting and you think people should be reconsidering their career options because of it or worse still you think the business should be looking to "encourage" them out the door?

A little extreme...no? :cuppa

I'm sure those highly paid and very well educated upper tiers of management saw this coming and have sensible, amicable solutions already worked out in fine detail.
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DirtyHarry wrote:
Brain Fury wrote:Employees that hold moral objections to doing the job they are paid to do should be encouraged to find an alternative that fits with their personal beliefs.
Brain. :left:
Just in case you haven't noticed, these aren't the good ol' days anymore. Jobs in this country, decent jobs, paying a decent living wage, are as rare as Hen's teeth.
Afraid you're stuck with us, mate. :cuppa
If RM continues to employ people who think they can choose which bits of the job they are prepared to do then I suspect we won't be stuck with each other for very long.
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fishtank wrote:
Brain Fury wrote:Employees that hold moral objections to doing the job they are paid to do should be encouraged to find an alternative that fits with their personal beliefs.
I would agree with you if the bulk, the majority or even a significant minority of their job clashed with their personal beliefs but that's not what we're talking about Mr Fury is it?

We're talking about what will likely be a one-off posting and you think people should be reconsidering their career options because of it or worse still you think the business should be looking to "encourage" them out the door?

A little extreme...no? :cuppa

I'm sure those highly paid and very well educated upper tiers of management saw this coming and have sensible, amicable solutions already worked out in fine detail.
I don't think it's extreme at all especially when it's clear that for some the moral objections are purely self serving. However, it is only my opinion and not those of RM or as far as I know any manager.
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With you all the way Skelmersdale :thumbup
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Brain Fury wrote: but you are not entitled to use your employer's business as the weapon to exact the consequences of your judgement..
says who? I can and I will.
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Brain Fury wrote:
Danelectro wrote:
Brain Fury wrote:Employees that hold moral objections to doing the job they are paid to do should be encouraged to find an alternative that fits with their personal beliefs.
why just not just send them to the gas chamber Mr Fury for the audacity for holding THAT organisation to some moral consequences. Some things are more important than business or money...
Rather expected a ridiculous response so congratulations on being first. You can apply whatever moral judgement you like to The Sun and News International but you are not entitled to use your employer's business as the weapon to exact the consequences of your judgement. If it really is more important than money to you then resign but I expect you really mean it is more important than somebody else's money.

Ask your mates in RM Management to deliver them. They've got no conscience either.
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Brain Fury wrote:Employees that hold moral objections to doing the job they are paid to do should be encouraged to find an alternative that fits with their personal beliefs.
Says the NAZI camp guard.
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At least the boys from Skelmersdale will have plenty of fuel for the brazier