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HootyMacBoob
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Reps brief
i have this in pdf and word format if any1 is interested
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HootyMacBoob
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good auld fashioned text
WE HAVE NOW ANNOUNCED MORE STRIKES
We know that these strikes are a big commitment for our members and for you as Representatives. You have a key role in ensuring
that our members understand why there is no alternative.
Royal Mail has declared war on the workforce and the union by announcing their intention to roll-out executive action on a number
of fronts. The escalation of the strike action is a proportionate response to their behaviour. It is an attempt to bring the dispute to
a successful conclusion.
This Brief provides you with all the information so you are equipped to ensure our members understand everything that has happened.
It covers:
● Key messages for you to convey to our members
● what happened during the talks
● the company’s proposal and why it was rejected
● A separate summary of the pension situation
KEY MESSAGES
● Explain to our members the unacceptable measures contained in the company’s final offer, particularly around total flexibility
and the pay deal now being dependent on pension changes.
● Explain all the areas covering Royal Mail’s executive action.
● Explain the people running the company want CWU members to pay for their mistakes.
➜ They freely agreed downstream access with the competitor. This was commercial suicide.
➜ They freely negotiated a Commercial Agreement with the Government which they now blame for their cost cutting measures.
➜ Despite all of their bravado they have gone along with everything Postcomm has said.
➜ They promised full protection of our members’ pensions and are now asking you to pay for their pension’s holiday.
● Escalating the strikes is an attempt to bring the dispute to a conclusion. The strike dates allow a final window of opportunity
for Royal Mail to continue negotiations and reach an agreement.
● The union has put forward a number of proposals during negotiation which have been rejected by the company.
We have advised the company that we are prepared to put forward a fresh proposal and more detail on this will follow.
● We want our members to tell Royal Mail managers the following:
➜ The company must withdraw their insistence that any pay deal is dependent on us agreeing to their pension’s proposal.
➜ The company must withdraw executive action.
➜ The company must withdraw its existing proposals on total flexibility.
➜ The company must immediately engage in negotiations to resolve the dispute.
THE TALKS
● Having campaigned to achieve negotiations, when these were offered it was important that we put all our efforts in attempting to
secure an agreement.
● The first stages of the talks were continually hindered by Royal Mail’s behaviour which included unacceptable sanctions against Reps
and members and punitive actions against those employees doing their jobs properly.
● Some progress was made in that both sides accepted there was a need to explore a longer term deal that would bring about stability
and increase pay.
● The initial period of calm concluded without an agreement and a meeting took place between Allan Leighton, Adam Crozier, Billy
Hayes and Dave Ward. It was agreed to extend the talks for a further 5 days. At this meeting the union was given a clear indication that
more money would be available.
● The extended period ended on Sunday 9th September, with Royal Mail presenting the union, late in the evening, with what they
described as their final offer. This offer did not reflect everything that had been discussed. This was a deliberate backward step and
coincided with Royal Mail ending the period of calm and imposing executive action.
● We understand that our Representatives have been frustrated with the lack of information arising out of the talks but this was a
necessary step agreed by both parties. Whilst people will be disappointed that no agreement was reached it is important that we
recognise the previous strike action did move us forward.
➜ Prior to and during strike action Royal Mail said there would be no more negotiations and no more money. Negotiations did take
place and an improved pay offer has been made.
➜ Royal Mail’s position on early starts has shifted as a direct result of the strikes to the point where members are being offered
the opportunity to retain allowances also including those previously in receipt of MTSF payments.
➜ It is also important to recognise that by having the most recent talks we have now flushed out Royal Mail’s true position.
ROYAL MAIL’S PROPOSAL AND WHY IT WAS REJECTED
● The full proposal is attached. Please take time to read it and you will see why it is completely unacceptable.
➜ Royal Mail demanded that any pay deal was dependent on us accepting their outrageous pension’s proposals.
➜ They also demanded total flexibility to an extent that our members wouldn’t know what jobs they were doing from day to day.
This also meant that everyone would be at the beck and call of the manager and the union would have no role in the work place.
Their flexibility proposals are completely unworkable, unnecessary and would result in total chaos in all offices.
➜ The company has not been able to put forward any rationale as to why every single office has to move their start times.
Furthermore, the Network changes are not being driven by legislation rather their desire to drive down costs and thus reducing
their ability to compete.
➜ On pay whilst the company made an improved offer of 6.7% it still falls short and still remains linked to unacceptable strings.
➜ The business remains committed to Colleague Share as a substitute for higher basic pay and decent pensions.
What this means in reality is they want change without proper reward.
We know that these strikes are a big commitment for our members and for you as Representatives. You have a key role in ensuring
that our members understand why there is no alternative.
Royal Mail has declared war on the workforce and the union by announcing their intention to roll-out executive action on a number
of fronts. The escalation of the strike action is a proportionate response to their behaviour. It is an attempt to bring the dispute to
a successful conclusion.
This Brief provides you with all the information so you are equipped to ensure our members understand everything that has happened.
It covers:
● Key messages for you to convey to our members
● what happened during the talks
● the company’s proposal and why it was rejected
● A separate summary of the pension situation
KEY MESSAGES
● Explain to our members the unacceptable measures contained in the company’s final offer, particularly around total flexibility
and the pay deal now being dependent on pension changes.
● Explain all the areas covering Royal Mail’s executive action.
● Explain the people running the company want CWU members to pay for their mistakes.
➜ They freely agreed downstream access with the competitor. This was commercial suicide.
➜ They freely negotiated a Commercial Agreement with the Government which they now blame for their cost cutting measures.
➜ Despite all of their bravado they have gone along with everything Postcomm has said.
➜ They promised full protection of our members’ pensions and are now asking you to pay for their pension’s holiday.
● Escalating the strikes is an attempt to bring the dispute to a conclusion. The strike dates allow a final window of opportunity
for Royal Mail to continue negotiations and reach an agreement.
● The union has put forward a number of proposals during negotiation which have been rejected by the company.
We have advised the company that we are prepared to put forward a fresh proposal and more detail on this will follow.
● We want our members to tell Royal Mail managers the following:
➜ The company must withdraw their insistence that any pay deal is dependent on us agreeing to their pension’s proposal.
➜ The company must withdraw executive action.
➜ The company must withdraw its existing proposals on total flexibility.
➜ The company must immediately engage in negotiations to resolve the dispute.
THE TALKS
● Having campaigned to achieve negotiations, when these were offered it was important that we put all our efforts in attempting to
secure an agreement.
● The first stages of the talks were continually hindered by Royal Mail’s behaviour which included unacceptable sanctions against Reps
and members and punitive actions against those employees doing their jobs properly.
● Some progress was made in that both sides accepted there was a need to explore a longer term deal that would bring about stability
and increase pay.
● The initial period of calm concluded without an agreement and a meeting took place between Allan Leighton, Adam Crozier, Billy
Hayes and Dave Ward. It was agreed to extend the talks for a further 5 days. At this meeting the union was given a clear indication that
more money would be available.
● The extended period ended on Sunday 9th September, with Royal Mail presenting the union, late in the evening, with what they
described as their final offer. This offer did not reflect everything that had been discussed. This was a deliberate backward step and
coincided with Royal Mail ending the period of calm and imposing executive action.
● We understand that our Representatives have been frustrated with the lack of information arising out of the talks but this was a
necessary step agreed by both parties. Whilst people will be disappointed that no agreement was reached it is important that we
recognise the previous strike action did move us forward.
➜ Prior to and during strike action Royal Mail said there would be no more negotiations and no more money. Negotiations did take
place and an improved pay offer has been made.
➜ Royal Mail’s position on early starts has shifted as a direct result of the strikes to the point where members are being offered
the opportunity to retain allowances also including those previously in receipt of MTSF payments.
➜ It is also important to recognise that by having the most recent talks we have now flushed out Royal Mail’s true position.
ROYAL MAIL’S PROPOSAL AND WHY IT WAS REJECTED
● The full proposal is attached. Please take time to read it and you will see why it is completely unacceptable.
➜ Royal Mail demanded that any pay deal was dependent on us accepting their outrageous pension’s proposals.
➜ They also demanded total flexibility to an extent that our members wouldn’t know what jobs they were doing from day to day.
This also meant that everyone would be at the beck and call of the manager and the union would have no role in the work place.
Their flexibility proposals are completely unworkable, unnecessary and would result in total chaos in all offices.
➜ The company has not been able to put forward any rationale as to why every single office has to move their start times.
Furthermore, the Network changes are not being driven by legislation rather their desire to drive down costs and thus reducing
their ability to compete.
➜ On pay whilst the company made an improved offer of 6.7% it still falls short and still remains linked to unacceptable strings.
➜ The business remains committed to Colleague Share as a substitute for higher basic pay and decent pensions.
What this means in reality is they want change without proper reward.
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Senior Service
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Re: good auld fashioned text
[quote="tooty"]WE HAVE NOW ANNOUNCED MORE STRIKES
● The full proposal is attached. Please take time to read it and you will see why it is completely unacceptable.
When do we get to see the full proposal?
● The full proposal is attached. Please take time to read it and you will see why it is completely unacceptable.
When do we get to see the full proposal?
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HootyMacBoob
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senior thats taken from a pdf file but heres the ltb for you anyhoo
Dear Colleagues
Royal Mail Dispute
In response to Royal Mail declaring executive action on a number of fronts, the Union has made a decision to escalate strike action.
The Postal Executive have agreed the following strike dates:
• A 48 hour strike on the 5th & 6th October covering all employees.
• A 48 hour strike on the 8th & 9th October covering all employees.
• Week commencing 15th October a rolling programme of functional strikes to continue weekly until the resolution of the dispute.
We know this strike action requires a big commitment from our members. However, it is a proportionate response to an employer that is completely out of control. Rather than running the business, Royal Mail’s actions demonstrate they are intent on destroying it.
In the last week the company has announced the following:
• Executive action on their pension proposals - Royal Mail will be communicating this to staff next week.
• Executive action through the imposition of later starts on the 8th October.
• Executive action through the imposition of network changes on the 23rd October.
• Executive action through the cessation of Sunday Collections on the 28th October.
• Executive action against Engineers, the net effect of which will mean a reduction of 10% of posts.
• Executive action through the cessation of Employee Share of Savings Scheme (ESOS) on the 10th October.
These announcements are on top of the fact that Royal Mail will not settle a pay rise owed to members from the 1st April 07.
Instead, they now demand any pay deal must include total flexibility and be dependent on us agreeing outrageous pension’s proposals. This includes closing the Final Salary Scheme for existing employees, attacking past service benefits and increasing retirement age to 65. The company’s proposals would lose our members thousands of pounds.
The truth is central to the problems in this industry is the people running the company want our members to pay for their mistakes.
Given the seriousness of the situation, we have no alternative other than to escalate strike action and bring this dispute to a conclusion. We will also be re-launching the ‘Doing the Job Properly Campaign’ on the 1st October.
The Postal Executive has also decided to ballot Parcelforce, Romec and all Group Wide Businesses for industrial action over the pension’s issue.
In announcing further strike dates we have given Royal Mail one final opportunity to reach a negotiated settlement.
A Reps Brief will be sent out later today and a letter to members’ home addresses next week.
Yours sincerely
Dear Colleagues
Royal Mail Dispute
In response to Royal Mail declaring executive action on a number of fronts, the Union has made a decision to escalate strike action.
The Postal Executive have agreed the following strike dates:
• A 48 hour strike on the 5th & 6th October covering all employees.
• A 48 hour strike on the 8th & 9th October covering all employees.
• Week commencing 15th October a rolling programme of functional strikes to continue weekly until the resolution of the dispute.
We know this strike action requires a big commitment from our members. However, it is a proportionate response to an employer that is completely out of control. Rather than running the business, Royal Mail’s actions demonstrate they are intent on destroying it.
In the last week the company has announced the following:
• Executive action on their pension proposals - Royal Mail will be communicating this to staff next week.
• Executive action through the imposition of later starts on the 8th October.
• Executive action through the imposition of network changes on the 23rd October.
• Executive action through the cessation of Sunday Collections on the 28th October.
• Executive action against Engineers, the net effect of which will mean a reduction of 10% of posts.
• Executive action through the cessation of Employee Share of Savings Scheme (ESOS) on the 10th October.
These announcements are on top of the fact that Royal Mail will not settle a pay rise owed to members from the 1st April 07.
Instead, they now demand any pay deal must include total flexibility and be dependent on us agreeing outrageous pension’s proposals. This includes closing the Final Salary Scheme for existing employees, attacking past service benefits and increasing retirement age to 65. The company’s proposals would lose our members thousands of pounds.
The truth is central to the problems in this industry is the people running the company want our members to pay for their mistakes.
Given the seriousness of the situation, we have no alternative other than to escalate strike action and bring this dispute to a conclusion. We will also be re-launching the ‘Doing the Job Properly Campaign’ on the 1st October.
The Postal Executive has also decided to ballot Parcelforce, Romec and all Group Wide Businesses for industrial action over the pension’s issue.
In announcing further strike dates we have given Royal Mail one final opportunity to reach a negotiated settlement.
A Reps Brief will be sent out later today and a letter to members’ home addresses next week.
Yours sincerely
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HootyMacBoob
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It is the biggest attack on our terms and conditions ever and heres hoping the spineless strike breakers and the waverers and those moaning about 4 days strike wake up from there slumber and support the strike this time, and those who are taking the strikes as a day of GET OUT ON THE PICKET LINES ON MASS and make sure the strike breakers,managers and those wanna b strike breakers see how strong and determined we are.Senior Service wrote:Many thanks; i am sure i am like a lot of people in total disbelief, this goes back to the days of the jarrow march and private mine owners starving the men back to work for less money.
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We never find out anything from him. He does his best to suit himself. Unless the sub-rep gets a copy, we won't see it.tooty wrote:Dont think its been sent oot yet IWW so dont get on your reps back yet, im sure hees doing his best in a no win position.IWW Fellow Worker wrote:Thanks for this comrades. We'd never hear or see it if it was left to our rep.
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THANKS TOOTY
Tooty a very public and big thank you for posting all that info - especially as it looks as though you had to type it in long hand after the embed copies didn't take.
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Re: THANKS TOOTY
all for a good cause TBTTrueBlueTerrier wrote:Tooty a very public and big thank you for posting all that info - especially as it looks as though you had to type it in long hand after the embed copies didn't take.