latest union response

dogfood · Post by **dogfood** » 17 Sep 2007, 17:56

A message from Billy Hayes, General Secretary & Dave Ward, Deputy
General Secretary (Postal)

Dear Colleague,
As previously reported, the Union rejected
Royal Mail's latest proposal. The details of those proposals and why
they were rejected were explained to representatives from each branch
last Thursday.

Since that National Briefing, a further meeting has taken place with
Royal Mail. At that meeting Royal Mail has invited the Union to table a
fresh counter proposal with a view to reach an agreement and resolve the
dispute.

The Union intends to take up that offer. As a result the Postal
Executive is currently finalising that proposal.

At the same time the Postal Executive is discussing the details of the
next phase of industrial action in response to managerial executive
action on operational changes, pensions and ESOS. This will be
communicated before the end of this week.

The details of the Union's counter proposal and the need for members to
continue to support strike action will form the basis of a letter to
members' home addresses and a detailed briefing to representatives.

Kevin Slocombe
Head of Communications

dogfood · Post by **dogfood** » 17 Sep 2007, 17:59

At the same time the Postal Executive is discussing the details of the
next phase of industrial action in response to managerial executive
action on operational changes, pensions and ESOS. This will be
communicated before the end of this week.

So still no action until at least next Friday WTF are the Union up to? It is like a distraction burglary Keep the union talking whilst RM sneak in the backdoor all the changes.

HELLO CWU WAKE UP FFS.

Yahoorsur · Post by **Yahoorsur** » 17 Sep 2007, 18:06

We should be out on strike next Tuesday,dont give the two f@ckers any lee way this time,why do i think we are being led up the garden path on this

South East Postie · Post by **South East Postie** » 17 Sep 2007, 18:11

GET US OUT ON THE LINES ASAP for goodness sake stop mucking around

Post by **johnston65** » 17 Sep 2007, 18:14

So if Royal Mail are giving the CWU the opportunity to respond with their counter proposals then what exactly have they been doing for the last five weeks?

Royal Mail have cleared their feet. Members of this Union are starting to question the tactics of the leadership. A wedge is starting to grow between those at the top and the foot soldiers. Over the last five weeks during the period of calm we have had attack after attack by RM management. The Unions response was total silence. If weare to be kept being led up this dead end then there will come a point when there is a massive split in this Union.

Get your act together Hayes and Ward before its too late !!!

ulster postie · Post by **ulster postie** » 17 Sep 2007, 18:15

SO WHAT IS THERE TO AGREE, FCUK ALL, CANT UNDERSTAND WHY BILLY & DAVE HAVE LET THIS COME TO THIS. WHAT PART, IF ANY, HAVE THEY ALREADY AGREED, WE NEED TO KNOW NOW, WHAT PART ARE THEY STILL UNAGREED ABOUT, ALL OF IT, SO WHATS THE FCUKING POINT. IF THEY HAVNT GOT THE BALLS TO SEE THIS THRU SAY SO NOW. STOP TAKING THE MEMBERSHIP FOR GRANTED, I FOR ONE HAVE TAKEN ALL I CAN TAKE FROM THIS SO CALLED LEADERSHIP, ITS TIME TO GO BOYS

dogfood · Post by **dogfood** » 17 Sep 2007, 18:22

I FOR ONE HAVE TAKEN ALL I CAN TAKE FROM THIS SO CALLED LEADERSHIP, ITS TIME TO GO BOYS

Totally agree mate.

BELIAL · Post by **BELIAL** » 17 Sep 2007, 18:24

Lets hope the union counter proposals are drawn up in the same spirit as RM,s offer. SAY..

Â£600 basic per wk.

Max 30HR week

Pension to increase by RPI + 5% per annum,

ETC..

Just as realistic as RM,s proposals, we could talk and meet in the middle, couldn't be more reasonable imho

Post by **johnston65** » 17 Sep 2007, 18:25

It is time for the membership to join together forcing a vote of no confidence in our present leadership.

blackadder · Post by **blackadder** » 17 Sep 2007, 18:29

johnston65 wrote:It is time for the membership to join together forcing a vote of no confidence in our present leadership.

behind u 100%

mdtomuk · Post by **mdtomuk** » 17 Sep 2007, 18:30

THE ONLY PART OF YOUR PROPOSAL RM ARE GONNA AGREE TO IS THE MAXIMUM 30 HOUR WEEK!!!

GAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!!!

YEP, TABLE A COUNTER PROPOSAL BUT A THE SAME TIME HIT THEM WITH STRIKES -ASAP!!!!!
:cfo :lfo

IWW Fellow Worker · Post by **IWW Fellow Worker** » 17 Sep 2007, 18:31

johnston65 wrote:It is time for the membership to join together forcing a vote of no confidence in our present leadership.

With you there fellow Wobbly!

max_gain · Post by **max_gain** » 17 Sep 2007, 18:44

Talks - all good and well !

Maybe it is a stalling ploy to cause maximum disruption and force Huey and Duey into a corner. THE RUN UP TO CHRISTMAS. Now that would be their worst nightmare come true. Imagine what a complete bunch of twats they would look like.

Still feel we should be announcing strike action and sticking to it.

vigilante · Post by **vigilante** » 17 Sep 2007, 19:05

I CANT BELIEVE THIS HAS DRAGGED ON SO LONG.
WE SHOULD HAVE STAYED OUT, LAUGHED AT THIER PROPOSAL THEN GIVEN OUR OWN AND STILL STAYED OUT.
RM HAVE STALLED US LONG ENOUGH.
CHRISTMAS IS NEAR AND THE PUBLIC WON'T BACK US IF WE'RE OUT AT CHRISTMAS------WAKE UP PEC----THEY ARE PLAYING YOU FOR
IDIOTS.

stressed · Post by **stressed** » 17 Sep 2007, 19:05

RM are just throwing as mcuh crap at the CWU as possible and praying they call an ALL OUT strike. As RM know that there is no way everyone will down tools for x amount of days. Not many people would be able to afford it with mortgages etc.

The CWU have cocked up big time here IMHO and I really can not see how they are going to rescue us from the looming disaster that awaits everyone.

RM have had all this planned for ages now and the CWU fell right into the trap.

I really hope I am the first to be proved wrong here.

ROYALMAILCHAT

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