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INDUSTRIAL ACTION PLAN:STRIKE DATES!!

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brothermagrew
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INDUSTRIAL ACTION PLAN:STRIKE DATES!!

Post by brothermagrew »

Have heard from a very good source of mine the following with regards to Industrial Action Plan.

1. PEC will require some time to go back to members, hold briefings and branch meetings.

2. Proposed 24hour strike on 25th September followed by rolling programme of functional action.

3. Relaunch *doing your job properly" campaign 17th September.
The Inspector
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Post by The Inspector »

:Very Happy Thanx - Brother M - We cannot lose this one or Unions all over will be smashed. Our members & NEC - gotta realise that 'Faint heart - never f****d - a fair lady'! Good luck - to us all! :Very Happy
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Fluke
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Re: INDUSTRIAL ACTION PLAN

Post by Fluke »

brothermagrew wrote:Have heard from a very good source of mine the following with regards to Industrial Action Plan.

1. PEC will require some time to go back to members, hold briefings and branch meetings.

2. Proposed 24hour strike on 25th September followed by rolling programme of functional action.

3. Relaunch *doing your job properly" campaign 17th September.
Strike action on the 25th? :shock: Thats way to late, we should be out a lot sooner. :mad
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Post by Stormproof »

Why pick one of the lightest days of the week?, Mondays, Wednesdays or Fridays would be better
So keep on moving, moving, moving your feet
Keep on shuf-shuf-shuffling to this ghost dance beat
Just keep on walking down never ending streets


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Post by The Inspector »

I undersdtand yr frustration Fluke - mistakes in timing have been made BUT a strike has to be successful. A failed strike - would be disastrous & spell the demise of all Unions. Some thought must be given to the unrest in other Public Sector Unions & what they are going to do. In the main - we are militants on here. My own office - is a very 'Bolshi' one. Even so - we still have enough flyers with their heads up a very dark place - ripping the guts out of duties so they can cry 'I'm FAST'! What came 1st - the NEC thinking they 'know best' OR apathy on the 'shop-floor' - I dunno - I'm relatively new to Unions & Socialism! All have patience & support our Union. It's the only one we've got! If we lose this one - then all with backbones - will be seeking other employment.
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Fluke
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Post by Fluke »

I was always taught "Prior planning and preparation, prevents piss poor performance". So I understand the PEC need to sort a few things out, but we need to start the ball rolling now! Calling a strike on the 25th which is a Tuesday, is FUBAR. Your office sounds like mine, and people need a wake up call, and if the summary of key issues highlighted on here are anything to go by, then people are going to be pissed. The Union now need to kick start the strikes again and quickly, before apathy sets in. If RM gets their foot in the door with later starts, people will see the CWU as weak.

I am not in favour of an all out strike, as I don't think its is sustainable in the long term. The rolling thunder of the one dayers worked fantastic, although I think they need simplifying. I just don't understand why we don't pick up where we left off, whilst the PEC develop a better long term strategy, which should include banding together with other public sector unions\workers.
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strike action

Post by coppertop »

This time even if we get them to come back to the table and talk we should carry on with the I A and make the talks open and not done behind closed doors
damo
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industrial action plan

Post by damo »

Would it be better to go on strike every day,say 2 hours before the end of every shift?on all shifts, It would still amount to 1 days strike but hit Royal Mail every day with no chance of recovery.would this be feasible?
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Post by baldrick »

It might in a delivery office where you are all on more or less the same attendance.
But it would be really difficult and chaotic in processing and distribution where there are
attendances starting and finishing almost every hour in the mail centres.
Fluke
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Re: industrial action plan

Post by Fluke »

damo wrote:Would it be better to go on strike every day,say 2 hours before the end of every shift?on all shifts, It would still amount to 1 days strike but hit Royal Mail every day with no chance of recovery.would this be feasible?
I don't think that would work, as it would be hard to tell who was actually striking and who was not. Some people would cover that last two hours on docket. In my office we had people that were on strike coming in early the following day and clearing what they hadn't done the previous day at no extra cost.

If it were me calling the shots, I would say go back to our previous action, but also include and overtime ban, stop the muppets that come in early and ban cars on delivery. :mad I would make it clear to the membership that if they failed to abide by this then we would have to call an all out.
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Post by damo »

Thanks for your thoughts, i made the mistake of judging all offices like my own as we have shift patterns that pretty much start and finish at the same time, oh well back to the drawing board.
barkersboy
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Post by barkersboy »

The strike should be the same rolling action as before. Need 7 days notice so Friday 21st would be the best start. My reasosn for Friday - Many of my colleagues feel betrayed by the union. 5 weeks of talks and it appears not one thing was agreed. All done in secrecy which makes the outcome even worse. Our negotiators must have known well before 5 weeks that RM were not going to buidge so my colleagues want to know why the IA was not resumed earlier. Now we have Union members, activists), ready to shred their cards, take £2.70 (Subs) + any increase RM give, and then hope for EVR packages. Friday 21st? prospect of a Long Weekend off might I say might just get a good percentage of our office to go out again. The NEC has badly let down the membership at grass roots. A big big percentage of members dont understand the politics behind strikes and negotiations. They have to be informed and kept up to date everyday. We could debate how good are union reps at doing this?
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Post by borders »

point taken Barkersboy, the feeling is similar in our office, regarding your last couple of lines , whats stopping you from helping out your reps and keeping people informed---let people know about this website for starters !! no offence meant !!
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Post by barkersboy »

Borders. I do that on a big scale much to the annoyance of my WAMs and with many thanks from my colleagues. I take every opportunity to ask colleagues to log onto this site. MY concern is the secrecy and lack of information from the top to the members. I am serious about the feelings in the office. members are not going to go for strikes, SECRET talks- no action,which is where we are now
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Re: INDUSTRIAL ACTION PLAN

Post by dvbuk55 »

brothermagrew wrote:Have heard from a very good source of mine the following with regards to Industrial Action Plan.

1. PEC will require some time to go back to members, hold briefings and branch meetings.

2. Proposed 24hour strike on 25th September followed by rolling programme of functional action.

3. Relaunch *doing your job properly" campaign 17th September.
How effective was the last "doing your job properly" campaign - well in our office the take up was as rare as rocking horse s**t.

It's time the union stopped protecting its own backside and started protecting ours. Stuff the PC legal crap - we stand to lose this fight by being far too complacent as a leadership which breeds complacency on the shop floor.

We had what I presume was a WTL this morning where the Manager announced that later start times would begin on October 8th - and the response from the shop floor - "hey ho is the coffee machine working?".

I'm glad I'm the age I am because a couple of years down the line and you will be reading meters, riding rickshaws, delivering pizzas, blockbuster videos and sweeping the streets.